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    Metaphysics of Interfaces
    By Samuel Kenyon | December 22nd 2010 01:54 AM | 10 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    We have an everyday sense of interfaces.  The computers we use all have interfaces, both in software and hardware.  If they didn't, we wouldn't be able to use them (of course, some interfaces are clearly better than others).  But interfaces aren't just for computers--every tool or entertainment device has interfaces.  For instance the size and shape of a hammer or a pistol affords a certain usage by human hands which is very effective, and even comfortable.

    But is there a more fundamental, general concept of interface?

    First, we can enumerate a few of the more important roles that our common human interfaces can take: Interfaces can be thought of as translators, for instance human-computer interfaces translate a machine language into something humans can deal with such as text and/or graphics.  Interfaces can be masks, for instance avatars and augmented reality insert a layer of reality modification between users and worlds.  Interfaces can connect different types of substrates, for instance biological to electronics.  Interfaces can connect objects of different scales, for instance the interfaces of heavy machinery allow a single human to move massive quantities of material (or in a somewhat less common example, a human can manipulate specific atoms with the interfaces provided by a scanning tunneling microscope).

    There are other types of interfaces, such as chemical surface boundaries between two phases.  Biology has various kinds of interfaces; computer science has its kinds of interfaces; and so on.  Basically, whenever two or more objects interact, there is an interface at that interaction.  Some interfaces are natural, and some are designed to make the interaction between the objects effective.  But there doesn't need to be a third thing that is the interface.  The interface can be the transient place at which two or more things intersect.

    What is the metaphysical situation for interfaces?  Do interfaces exist as universals?  Are they abstract?  Are they objective or subjective?  Let's say that I am ontologically committed to the existence of objective interfaces.  So these could be concrete, but can an interface in its simplest form be concrete or must it be abstract?  Perhaps there is a universal interface--a class of which all interfaces are instances of.  This would posit that the phenomenon of interfacing is the same at all scales and regardless of whatever particulars were involved in the interfacing.

    Now, let's say that we thought there were real world instances everywhere of the universal interface.  At what scales would that stop?  Is there some underlying level in which entities no longer interface?  

    Now, why would I even bother to think about objective abstract interfaces?  Because, it's possible that interfaces at the simplest conception are the basic connector of objects.  If that premise is true, then without the existence of objective interfaces there would not objectively exist anything separate from anything else--or there could be but they would effectively be in their own universes because they would never be able to interact.

    If objective interfaces do not actually exist in this world, then we have to deal with the concept of interface just as a metaphor.

    At the human scale, discussing interfaces seems to embrace an object-oriented point of view, which is basically the natural human point of view.  Humans operate largely by perceiving the world in terms of objects, with agents being a special class of object that operate autonomously.  Other humans are agents, other animals are agents, anything that appears to move by its own volition is suspicious and given at the very least temporary status as an agent.  But are objects, i.e. particular entities, necessary for the concept of interface?  Perhaps an objective theory of interface would not require objects.  Maybe objects are just slices of the world which are convenient for our minds to process.  Although it seems like we interface with objects, it's possible that all interfaces operate between folds of the same cloth--some continuity that is not composed of objects (or the world itself is the only object).

    Comments

    Gerhard Adam
    Because, it's possible that interfaces at the simplest conception are the basic connector of objects.
    I'm not sure where you're going with this, because this statement seems redundant.  It's almost as if you're using the word "interface" to imply something other than the basic interaction that allows an object to be detected and/or acted upon.

    Clearly if there is no interaction, then it doesn't exist regardless of how you want to conceive of it, since (by definition) it is incapable of detection.
    Perhaps there is a universal interface--a class of which all interfaces are instances of.  This would posit that the phenomenon of interfacing is the same at all scales and regardless of whatever particulars were involved in the interfacing.
    Not at all.  Why would you assume that any particular class of interfaces was fully scalable?  More to the point, how are these interfaces any different than the four forces of physics?
    SynapticNulship
    Not at all.  Why would you assume that any particular class of interfaces was fully scalable?

    I don't, it was just a question--could that be possible?  It seems unlikely though, unless you could make a theory that reduces fundamental interfaces into one interface.  And of course that's still not universal to all things at any scale that might be interfaces, so in the end it does seem like a pretty stupid question.  These are basically just freewheeling notes I've had for about a year and figured I'd try to get some feedback.

    More to the point, how are these interfaces any different than the four forces of physics?

    Well, it's possible that those are the only objective interfaces we have any scientific confidence in. Perhaps it then becomes a discussion of what is truly fundamental in spacetime.

    Aitch
    Samuel,

    It seems to me that what you aren't focusing on is the function of the interface, yet try to discern whether a, i.e. single fundamental interface exists

    For example, we know that Gravity exists, purely by its function of interface with our object self, yet can we really say what is fundamental about gravity?

    Likewise Electromagnetism, which we have multiple interaction interfaces with, from phones, computers, TV, Robots, et al each requiring a different interface or affecting us by the use we can put each to, and which would be impossible without an interface.
    The electromagnetic interface is considerably different in 'use principle' to that of gravity, certainly in those examples, yet there is an electromagnetic interface with each of us in the form of the Sun's light, more subtly, the moon's pull, or Jupiter's influence, perhaps on our luck

    Those interfaces are simple boundaries of self and other, by which the functions of sum and difference are spawned, and trigger learning and perhaps even consciousness

    So for me, more than a metaphor, therefore likely universal in ways we cannot yet perceive

    I have just put elsewhere, 'When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at, change', yet it seems also fitting to put it here, as an interface for thought provoking, which is not physical/object oriented, yet an interface all the same

    Aitch  
    SynapticNulship
    It seems to me that what you aren't focusing on is the function of the interface, yet try to discern whether a, i.e. single fundamental interface exists

    Yes, or if not a single one, then whatever interfaces are in fact objective and fundamental, if any.
    Please drop the whole metaphysics analogy, as metaphysics has never amounted to anything more than a way to pompously signal apparent profundity. A much more fruitful exploration of this issue would have had for itself the title 'Linguistics of Interfaces'. An interface is the language we use that both facilitates and defines the conversation we have within a specific interaction. Viewed as a form of language, interfaces can now be analyzed using linguistic frameworks. First, we can transform an interface into a formal grammar, and then we can classify an interface according to the Chomsky hierarchy. This is not new, it is a major part of computer science, but what may be new is to extend the programming language architect's jurisdiction from [alphanumeric strings<=>machine code] to [neurolinguistics<=>human-machine system(including neurolinguistics)]

    I may be biased since my principle training is in computer science, but if everything is information (software) then the universal interface to everything should be programming languages or variants thereof.

    vongehr
    "metaphysics has never amounted to anything more than a way to pompously signal apparent profundity"
    You would have my Science2.0 comment of the week nomination if there were such a thing. If I just could make myself more rigorously apply this insight.
    SynapticNulship
    Please drop the whole metaphysics analogy, as metaphysics has never amounted to anything more than a way to pompously signal apparent profundity. A much more fruitful exploration of this issue would have had for itself the title 'Linguistics of Interfaces'.

    Fruitfulness is contextual.  The point was to ask the question: is there a such thing as objective interfaces?  To switch to linguistics means you've either concluded the answer is no, which is fine, or you've side-stepped the issue completely. 
    "Fruitfulness is contextual. The point was to ask the question: is there a such thing as objective interfaces? To switch to linguistics means you've either concluded the answer is no, which is fine, or you've side-stepped the issue completely."

    You are right, I've side-stepped the issue completely because I've a priori concluded that the answer to this, and all similarly asked questions, is no. I was trying to make that clear in my first sentence disparaging metaphysics, though because I think there is significance to your thoughts, I would not go so far as to say the question is pointless, and so continued to rethink the problem from what I thought would be a more concrete foundation. Fruitfulness is only contextual when you're unsure of what the fruit tastes like! Metaphysics is an over-ripened fruit that provides all the sugar without any of the vitamins--thought candy.

    SynapticNulship
    Your Chomsky heirarchy approach suggestion is appreciated and I will certainly think about that as I add more "fruit."
    Sweet!

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