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    Imagine If Sex Were Only For IQs Over 120
    By Josh Witten | December 30th 2008 03:09 PM | 47 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Unfortunately for all of us still breathing braniacs, the title only applies to those of us who are also medieval Ashkenazi Jews, according to the authors of the 2006 paper "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence".

    Discussing "race" and intelligence is always a touchy subject and definitely not politically correct; but science should not be fettered by the chains of political correctness like a mangy circus lion.  It must run free across the intellectual savanna, striking down the juvenile wildebeest of ignorance. Following articles on the biology and significance of race by Michael White, Massimo Pigliucci, and moi, my attention was directed to "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence".  Thanks to press attention from biological research bell-weathers like The Economist and the New York Times, as well as discussion on National Public Radio, this paper has gained Goodyear AquatredTM-esque traction on the internet. 

    Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, and Henry Harpending (CHH) throw off the chains of political correctness with gusto.   Of course, science isn't just a bad metaphor.  Do the data support their conclusions?

    CHH were trying to explain a long-standing dilemma: the relatively high frequency of alleles for genetic disorders in Ashkenazi populations.  One hypothesis is that the disease allele frequencies were the result of one or more founder effects (changes in allele frequency by chance due to small effective population size) in Ashkenazi history.  An alternative hypothesis is that selection for a character on which the disease alleles have an overdominant or heterozygote advantage effect (heterozygote has higher character value than either homozygote) explains the relatively high disease allele frequency.

    Have CHH found the solution?  They claim that the relatively high disease allele frequency is explained by positive, natural selection for intelligence, on which the disease alleles have an overdominant effect, in the medieval Ashkenazi.  They suggest that cultural factors forced the Ashkenazi to work in certain professions (e.g., finance), which required above average intelligence and were associated with high income.  Intelligence is associated with wealth, and wealth is associated with number of viable offspring, leading to natural selection for increased intelligence.

    We'll analyze their theory in three steps.  First, we'll look at the validity of their premises.  Second, we'll look at the population genetic evidence.  Third, we'll look at the plausibility of the proposed mechanism.  In conclusion, I'll follow up with some, potentially snarky, commentary.

    DISCLOSURE: My analysis has been based on a pre-publication PDF available online, because the Washington University School of Medicine library does not subscribe to the Journal of Biosocial Sciences. I’ve tried to reduce the bulk of technical definitions in the text by linking out to Wikipedia pages. I cannot vouch for the completeness nor the accuracy of all referenced Wikipedia entries.

    Enough foreplay, let's take a look under the hood.

    PREMISES: There are four observations that motivated the analysis of CHH.

    The Ashkenazi have higher frequencies of alleles for several genetic disorders than expected
    The allele frequency for a number of genetic disorders is significantly elevated in the Ashkenazi population.  This observation has motivated a great deal of research into its cause.

    There are more lysosomal storage diseases (LSDs) represented in the Ashkenazi disease set than expected
    The apparent enrichment of LSDs in the Ashkenazi (Jorde [1992]) has motivated selection-based explanations for these allele frequencies.  It has been postulated that selection, not random processes, was the only reasonable mechanism that could produce such enrichment. Furthermore, the LSD disease alleles affect neuronal pathways, evidenced by their deleterious effects on the brain in homozygous recessive individuals, suggesting the possibile overdominant effect on intelligence in heterozygotes. 

    Is this enrichment special?  In 2003, Risch et al. compared the frequency distribution, number of mutations, and coalescent times of LSDs and non-LSDs (NLSDs) and found no difference between LSDs and NLSDs, demonstrating that LSDs are a representative subset of the total set of genetic disorders present in the Ashkenazi.  They are not special.

    CHH do not counter the argument of Risch et al. (2003) directly.  Instead, they argue that NLSDs are also a special caseMG.  They speculate, without evidence, that a subset of NLSDs also have effects on intelligence.  The reasoning is circular.  This observation (enrichment of intelligence affecting disease alleles) only exists if one accepts the mechanism (NLSDs affect intelligence) that only exists to explain the observation.  The mechanism is its own grandfather.

    The Ashkenazi have a higher mean IQ than other populations
    According to Lynn and Longley (2006), the median IQ of British Jews is 110 and American Jews is 109.5, with the global population mean defined at 100 with a standard deviation of 15.

    Environmental contribution to IQ is negligible
    Adult IQ has been shown to have a high narrow-sense heritability (h2~0.8). The importance of environmental effects on IQ, however, is still debated.  CHH’s interpretation is that there is minimal environmental influence on IQ.  Identical twin and adoption studies appear to support this interpretation, if one ignores the potential environmental influence of culture. Narrow-sense heritability reflects the ability to predict the phenotype of the offspring from those of the parents. It reflects the genetic contribution to phenotypic variation within populations, but not necessarily between populations. It has not been established that the observed, average IQ in the Ashkenazi is a genetic phenomenon.  This issue would be relevant even with perfect heritability (h2=1).

    Summary
    At least, two of the four premises of this study are suspect. While the Ashkenazi do have higher than expected frequencies of several disease alleles, the evidence that there is an enrichment for LSDs is, at best, debatable. Although the data do support a higher than average measured IQ in the Ashkenazi, the application of IQ heritability for individuals to entire ethnic groups has not been demonstrated to be a valid assumption. The assumption that Ashkenazi IQ must represent differences in allele frequencies, not differences in culture, controlling IQ is not supported at this time.

    GENETICS: CHH make two claims critical to their theory from population and quantitative genetics.

    Response to selection could reasonably account for the elevated mean IQ of the Ashkenazi
    The argument for selection on IQ begins with a string of correlations.  CHH do not describe this string of correlations (Figure 1). High IQ is correlated with certain modern professions (r1).  Those modern professions are correlated with medieval professions (r2), to which the Ashkenazi were almost exclusively restricted.  Those medieval professions were correlated with high income (r3).  High income is correlated with number of offspring (r4).  They assume that a modern correlation of IQ with income (rP=0.4) is reasonable for Medieval Times, combining r1, r2, and r3 into one correlation, rP.  If any one of these correlations is invalid, their assumption of rP will also become invalid.  They assume that income and fitness are interchangeable (r4=1).

    CHH use these assumptions to estimate the response of IQ to natural selection. They want to predict the response of a correlated character (IQ) to natural selection on fitness.  It would be convenient if someone had come up with an equation to deal with this situation.  Well, I don't have a copy of the edition (2ND) of An Introduction to Population Genetics used by CHH, but I do happen to have an edition (4TH) updated by some chick that works on fruit flies to update (Falconer and McKay [1996]).  My copy has just such an equation.

    Don't feel bad if you missed it (it's kind of near the back) CHH missed it too. Instead, they fall back on an equation (much closer to the front) used to predict the response to artificial selection in domestic animal breeding. Imagine taking IQ tests for the right to have sex, which sounds like eugenics (or heaven if you are a socially awkward academic with a genius IQ).

    When the process is actual treated as natural selection, the expected response to selection (IQ=144) is unreasonably greater than either CHH’s estimate (IQ=120) or the claimed, observed difference (IQ=115), if one uses the appropriate equation (Box 1).

    The Ashkenazi have experienced no founder effects
    CHH admit that the high disease allele frequencies could be accounted for by one or more founder effect events, if those founder effect events occurred. Risch et al. (2003) and Slatkin (2004) say they did. CHH say they didn’t. CHH base their claim on the similarity of 652 polymorphisms at 251 loci between the Ashkenazi and Europeans, not including the disease alleles in question. Unsurprisingly, they find that polymorphism frequencies are most similar between geographically close populations. They argue that the Ashkenazi are essentially European, not Middle Eastern refuting any founder effect hypothesis. Their analysis, however, does show that the Ashkenazi are closer to Middle Eastern populations than are Europeans, consistent with a migration from the Middle East and a low rate of gene inflow from Europe. Because founder effects are chance changes in allele frequency, one would expect most allele frequencies to be similar between populations (especially if one throws out a set of the alleles with divergent frequencies, as CHH have done), even after a founder effect event. This leaves things a bit murky.

    Fortunately, there are better markers available, such as the Y-chromosome, mitochondrial inheritance, haplotype blocks, and linkage disequilibrium. Hammer et al. (2000) found that the Ashkenazi were derived from a Middle Eastern source population, based on Y-chromosome haplotypes. Behar et al. (2006) found that half of extant Ashkenazim can be traced back to only four women, based on mitochondrial DNA. Olshen et al. (2008) found distributions of haplotype blocks and linkage disequilibrium that were consistent with a founder effect, based on the analysis of 435,632 polymorphisms.

    The preponderance of quality data continues to support the founder effect hypothesis.

    Summary
    CHH’s conclusion that Ashkenazi IQ can be reasonably explained as a response to selection does not hold up when the appropriate analysis is applied. The data do not support CHH’s conclusion that there have been no founder effects in the Ashkenazi population history. Chance effects from founder effect events remain the most likely explanation of elevated disease allele frequencies among the Ashkenazim.

    MECHANISM: CHH propose that overdominant effects on intelligence drove elevated disease allele frequencies.

    Neurodevelopment
    Wild speculation is really all there is to say. Some of the Ashkenazi diseases affect neurons, detrimentally. Does this make it plausible that they all have overdominant effects on intelligence? Not really. Evidence would be appreciated.

    Parsimony
    Occam’s razor directs us to, when faced with two equally evidenced theories, to prefer the one that requires the fewest assumptions. In this case, the theories are not equally evidenced, but let’s set that aside for the moment. The founder effect hypothesis requires the assumption of 1-3 founder effect events. CHH’s overdominant selection hypothesis requires the assumption of 4-8 overdominant effects on intelligence by deleterious, recessive alleles. Parsimony favors the founder effect hypothesis.

    Expected effect
    Although these disease alleles have elevated frequencies in the Ashkenazi population, they are still rare (minor allele frequency < 0.05). In order to be responsible for an average Ashkenazi IQ 15 points higher than other populations, these alleles would have to have quite significant effects. CHH estimate that Gaucher, Niemann-Pick, and Tay-Sachs heterozygotes should have an IQ 5 points above average, which is likely underestimated (Box 2). The effects on IQ of heterozygosity from any one of these disease alleles based on either CHH’s or my own calculations should be easily detectable by standard IQ testing. This is the hypothesis that should have been tested, but is not.

    Summary
    There is no evidence to support CHH’s overdominance hypothesis. The hypothesis is not parsimonious. Finally, the required effect sizes of the alleles on IQ should be readily detectable in heterozygotes by standard testing. While we can conclude nothing from the absence of data, this hypothesis should be testable and should have been tested before being promulgated based only on speculation.

    DISCUSSION: This is where I get to be snarky.

    Impact
    The claim that these recessive alleles have an overdominant effect on IQ means that CHH are suggesting that they have identified high probability loci controlling quantitative variation in human intelligence.  People have been looking for these loci and have found squat. This should have been huge, HUGE, the news of 2006.  And the response from the scientific community . . .

    [Insert sound of crickets chirping melodiously]

    Uh, science, maybe you didn't you hear me, HUGE; or, it would have been, if there was, you know, evidence.  There is none.  Zero.  Zilch.  Nada.  What do they have?  Well, they can show that recessive alleles that negatively affect the brains of the afflicted, well, affect brain cells.  The steps from lethal, recessive effects to beneficial, IQ-enhancing, over-dominance effects is probably too obvious to you for me to bother explaining.

    What's really missing?  Demonstrating that heterozygote carriers for any of the recessive diseases they address have higher IQs than wild-type homozygotes.   This hypothesis is so testable it hurts. Everything else in this paper should have been a build up to data comparing the IQs of homozygotes and heterozygotes. Instead, we just get rapant speculation.

    Selectionism: n; the tendency to describe all evolutionary phenomena as a result of selection
    Now for a word about style: don't pop your collar and don't propose a mechanism before demonstrating that the mechanism is needed.  CHH spend their effort establishing the plausibility of selection for intelligence (over 70% of the paper), before addressing whether selection is even needed (30%).  Could this illogical structure betray selectionist tendencies?

    One of the authors, Gregory Cochran, has provided outside confirmation that he is indeed a selectionist.  The opening paragraph of Cochran's "An Evolutionary Look at Human Homosexuality" reveals the way this author views evolution:
    The first key idea is that evolution optimizes function. It makes things work. If there is a change in a gene that helps the organism, that change increases over the generations, becomes more common. If it causes trouble, as most changes do that make any difference at all, the change decreases over the generations, becomes rare. So although changes (mutations) happen, they don't happen very often, and natural selection tends to keep them rare. You could think of it as a filter, constantly removing changes that don't work. It magnifies the rare changes that improve things.
    The existence of deleterious alleles in human populations is troubling to this worldview.  Selection should have eliminated deleterious alleles.  If alleles are beneficial, they increase in frequency.  If they are deleterious, they decrease in frequency.  In the selectionist worldview, evolution is simple and deterministic.  Evolution is constantly moving us onward and upward (see here for a discussion, on a different topic, of how drift can allow deleterious variants to increase in frequency).

    Selectionists find the solution to the existence of deleterious alleles in human populations in the sickle-cell anemia story.  Sickle-cell anemia is caused by a recessive mutation in beta-hemoglobin.  Homozygous recessive individuals get sickle-cell anemia.  Heterozygotes are resistant to the malaria parasite (Plasmodium falciparum).  Due to strong selection for malaria resistance in Sub-Saharan Africa, up to one-third of Sub-Saharan Africans carry the mutant allele. 

    Take the sickle-cell anemia story, apply it to everything, and see the world through the eyes of a selectionist.  To a selectionist, deleterious alleles can only persist if there is a strong, countering selection for heterozygotes.  As a result, a selectionist tends to see a pathogen wherever fitness-reducing variants are perceived.  Except that the pathogen theory does not work for the Ashkenazi.  Medieval Ashkenazim were physically intermixed with other Europeans.  Something had to take the place of the pathogen.  Enter IQ.

    Conclusion
    CHH appear to have been committed to a selection-based explanation for disease allele frequencies in the Ashkenazi. They were not interested in testing their hypothesis (e.g., measuring the IQs of heterozygotes). They were interested in showing that their hypothesis is plausibly and creating a speculative story to support a selection-based explanation. They fail at both.

    Thanks Neil Patrick Harris and Doogie Howser, MD for first introducing me to Tay-Sachs and the concept of population genetic history influencing disease risk.  This is certainly the most parentheses that I have used in a document (ever).

    MG: moving goalposts logical fallacy

    Comments

    Hank
    This is brilliant stuff.  And this part ...
    science should not be fettered by the chains of political correctness like a mangy circus lion. It must run free across the intellectual savanna, striking down the juvenile wildebeest of ignorance.
    ... well, I can only say I intend to lift it and use it as my own and completely not attribute it to you.  It is the highest form of compliment I can pay.
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    jtwitten
    Actually, I was planning on selling bumper stickers, but we can negotiate putting the Scientific Blogging logo on them.
    Becky Jungbauer
    Hank beat me to it - I was also going to tell you that I am going to lift that very section as well. But if you are selling bumper stickers, then perhaps I'll wait and simply pass off your genius as my own via moving vehicle.

    For real, though - AWESOME article. I sent this to all of my 'socially awkward academic with a genius IQ' friends. Sadly, there seem to be too few of us.

    As for "Enough foreplay, let's take a look under the hood" - how cool is this site that we get to talk about cars and science? Oh - you weren't making a car innuendo? Must be my social awkwardness.
    jtwitten
    Bumper stickers, coffee mugs, and refrigerator magnets are now available at www.cafepress.com/rugbyologist.  Does this make me a narcissist?
    As for "Enough foreplay, let's take a look under the hood" - how cool is this site that we get to talk about cars and science? Oh - you weren't making a car innuendo? Must be my social awkwardness.
    "Do you know what 'foreplay' is?"

    "No."

    "Good.  Neither does El Guapo."
    Becky Jungbauer
    Holy shock and awe, batman - you really do have bumper stickers and more on that site! I admit, I honestly thought it would just be some goof site. I will be placing an order shortly. And I'll even pay in money, real money, Amigo money.
    Hank
    "Do you know the difference between foreplay and a Caesar salad?"



    "No"



    "Then let's have lunch!"



    I got a whole wife using that line, I think.
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    jtwitten
    My condolences to your wife.

    Bonus points to Becky for subtly acknowledging by phenomawesome 80's movie reference.

    I resisted the urge to create the highly topical "Must Have IQ > 120 to Ride" thong.  Got to keep it classy.
    Becky Jungbauer
    If that worked on a whole wife, what monstrosity of a pickup line did you use to get a half wife? And fear not, wife of Hank - cheesier lines have worked on us unsuspecting females. I know, I'm one of them. Over two years ago, while wearing a zip-up track jacket from a recent trip to Amsterdam, I fell for this one: "I've been to Europe, but Amster-damn!" He's a keeper.
    Kimberly Crandell
    No condolences necessary... that was one damn fine salad.
    jtwitten
    I believe I am now required to take away all your bonus points.
    Becky Jungbauer
    Too late. Once rewarded, they cannot be returned. And you're just jealous you didn't think of the line yourself. :)
    jtwitten
    The line? No.  The result . . . ;)
    Becky Jungbauer
    Ha ha! Awesome.
    Stellare
    Awesome article. Entertaining comments...:-)
    Bente Lilja Bye is the author of Lilja - A bouquet of stories about the Earth
    jtwitten
    Thank you.  Although I am quite happy with the positive response so far, I am somewhat surprised that there has been no negativity at all.  Fewer "juvenile wildebeest of ignorance" for me to slay. 
    I am the king of the juvenile wildebeests of ignorance - and I know a think or two. Things that you may need to consider before you lay your paws on me to slay me.

    Like for instance that you didn't have to go all that round-about way to say that that paper was a pile of elephant dung. But thanks for the tour anyway. My dung-rolling insect friends whose genes and mitochondrial DNA know aught but dung rolling keep me in the loop. I can lease these little marvels of the savannah to you at a small price - such as staying off my turf. He he !

    One of the primary researchers who helped elucidate the structure of DNA was retired shamefully with his tail up his dung-hole after making unpalatable comments on the mental ability of Africans (as if we do not all come from there anyway). So it is not the first time pseudo-science has been used to prop up the imaginary superiority of those who can not deal with the inescapable connection between all things and the possibility that others are just as smart as they are or indeed the importance of dung rolling insects in the great scheme of things.

    Darwinian selection which is pitifully entrenched in Newtonian mechanics is a woefully disempowering model. I know a man (who for many would fall in the category of the wildebeests of the ignorance) who changed his genes and his 'fate' by merely thinking about the matter. That (surely) is a more empowering model, but I can smell the naked terror of those who might lose their livelihood or that prestigious academic position. And anyway, who would want the ignorant wildebeests to think they can join the ranks of the mangy circus lion who is chained to the need to publish crap in order to get his measly research grants?

    Why are A-jews so much smarter?
    Simple, we admire intellect above all else. A-Jewish girls don't prefer jocks, and would rather date
    a mathematician or a chess master, or a science nerd. Historically, best would have been a Talmudic Scholar.
    If you want to understand this aspect of our culture, read " The Chosen" by Chaim P.

    Such selection adds up. Did you know that traditionally A-jewish boys were taught to read Hebrew ( a difficult foreign language), starting from the age of THREE.

    There are a few things you might want to get straight. First, you don't understand the argument as to why LSDs are special. Assume that the Ashkenazi Jews have some 20-odd genetic diseases: what are the odds that 4 affect a particular metabolic pathway? We now know how many genes there are, and we now know (approximately) how many of those genes affect sphingolipid metabolism. When you do the calculation, it turns out that having four out 20 concentrated in that one pathway is immensely unlikely, something like a chance of 1 in 100,000. In the same way, one might note that there are many recessive genetic diseases among peoples that have been long exposed to falciparum malaria, and that a surprisingly high fraction affect the red cell, mostly hemoglobin: you might think that they had been shaped by a selective pressure that involved red blood cells, and you would be right.

    Risch argued that the Ashkenazi LSD mutations weren't that differently distributed from some of their _other_ mutations - which is true. He said that this argued against their being the result of selection - it took me a long time to understand why he thought that. He seems to think that finding a _number_ of genes under selection is somehow unparsimonious: but of course strong selection for a particular trait would boost the frequencies of _all_ alleles that boosted that trait in a way that increased fitness in heterozygotes, just as tilting a pool table makes all the balls roll into the corner.

    I think that that most of the Ashkenazi (other than stuff like cystic fibrosis which is under selection in neighboring populations as well) is result of the same selective forces driving the LSD mutations. Risch's argument would of course suggest that sickle cell is not the product of selection, since we see a number of _other_ similarly distributed mutations in the same tropical and semitropical populations - G6PD deficiency, alpha-thalassemia, beta-thalassemia, Melanesian ovalocytosis, Yet another analogy: if Risch saw one big boulder at the foot of an escapement,he _might_ accept that was a result of gravity, but what are the odds that gravity would leave a _lot_ of boulders at the feet of that cliff?

    The mind reels.

    Second, a high population frequency of lethal or significantly deleterious mutations is not something that
    happens easily, or that persists easily. Selection is always cutting down the frequency, unless there is a balancing advantage or the population is experiencing a bottleneck, which increases the role of chance. if you run population-genetic simulations, as we did, you find that the only way in which you have a reasonable (say greater than 1 in 100,000) probability of observing even _one_ lethal mutation with a frequency as high the frequency of Tay-Sachs requires significant population bottlenecks - average sizes of a few thousand or less - and those bottlenecks would necessarily have other effects on measurable genetic statistics - effects that we do not see. Now the evidence on this is much better on today than it was when we wrote that paper: we now have data from Affy chips, 300,000 SNPs per individual, on several sets of Ashkenazi Jewish individuals. One of the sensitive indicators of a recent population bottleneck is an increased degree of linkage disequilibrium: but there isn't any. Another is reduced genetic variety - but the Ashkenazim have _more_ rare alleles than their European neighbors, more genetic variety. We know _for sure_ that there was no bottleneck - and without a bottleneck, the only _possible_explanation for the observed high frequency of a lethal recessive like Tay-Sachs is a selective advantage for heterozygotes. Now, that proves selection, but it does not prove what particular selective force was involved. You might note , however, that a buildup of the sphingolipids involvd in Tay-Sachs and Gaucher disease is known to cause neural growth. We know of thousands of genetic diseases, but the Ashkenazi sphingolipid storage disease are the _only_ ones known to cause increased dendritic or axonal growth - out of of those thousands.

    As for being a selectionist: why don't you try running the simulations yourself? Check to see how often a recessive lethal drifts to a 2% frequency in a given population history: see how it works. I ran such simulations millions of times - you can too. Monty Slatkin has: but in order to get any chance of something like high-frequency Tay-Sachs, he had to invoke _two_ bottlenecks, one in classical times and another in the Early Middle Ages - with the effective population low at less than 100 individuals. Which is ruled out by the AFFY data.

    Look, we convinced Takahata that it had to be selection, and he's no slouch. He would have published us in Genetics, if we had agreed to drop our ideas about what was being selected for.

    Eviatar Nevo, an evolutionary biologist in Israel, thought the whole idea was fascinating and wanted to start a big project, using data on inductees from the Israeli military: geneticists, psychologists, psychometricians, the whole schmear. Byt nobody wanted to do it, and the reason wasn't disbelief in the science: they were afraid the answers would be politically undesirable.

    I could go on, but duty calls, in a shrill unpleasant voice.

    Although we weren't as clear as we should have been, we think that the majority of the response to selection for intelligence among the Ashkenazi Jews involved changes in the frequency of existing alleles - selection on standing variation, rather than increases in a few initially-rare alleles of strong effect. But under strong selection, you often see both: we gave a number of examples involving selection acting on domesticates in the paper. Consider selection for muscle mas in beef cattle: in some breeds a lot of the variance (> 30%) is explained by a single null myostatin mutant, but most stems from many alleles of small effect. That high-frequency myostatin mutant proves that those cattle have undergone strong selection for muscle mass - as if we didn't know - but it does not account for all of the effect. It proves it because it has bad effect on calving in homozygotes and thus couldn't easily have become or stayed common by any means other than selection. In the same way, Tay-Sachs as we know it is a clear sign of selection ( once sufficiently tight bottlenecks have been ruled out) but need not be the main explanation of higher IQ in this group.

    Back on malaria: we are now finding a number of presumably protective mutations that are especially common in malarious regions, show extended blocks of linkage disequilibrium, etc, but don't cause any obvious genetic disease: like the glycophorin C allele in PNG. ( That one is at least associated with the red cell) We didn't know about them before because MDs only study disease, not polymorphisms for their own sweet sake. Similarly, we made use of the info about alleles causing disease among the Ashkenazi Jews because those are the alleles that have been studied...

    By the way, we've run into veterinarians giving papers on the null myostatin allele in Belgian Blue cattle who had never twigged that a high frequency of a mutation that required C-section birth in homozygotes could only be the result of strong selection.

    jtwitten
    Dr. Cochran, I appreciate you taking the time to provide your feedback and would like to make clear that, while I stand by my thoughts, a substantial portion of the rhetoric used within my article was directed in response to the more hyperbolic interpretations of this work in the public sphere.

    I believe that I did understand the point of the improbability of the LSD enrichment.  Indeed, 4 of 20 disorders lying in one pathway is statistically significant.  That significance does not necessarily imply selection.  There are two ways to interpret the result of Risch et al (2003) that LSDs have the same distribution characteristics as NLSDs.  One, is that there was no selection on LSDs (distribution characteristics should be different).  Two, there was also selection on the NLSDs, which is your interpretation.  The first interpretation is based on a test of whether the LSDs constitute a special case.  The second interpretation is based on the LSDs and NLSDs forming part of the same "special" (for my brain's lack of a better word at the moment) case.

    Interpretation of the Affy SNP data is complicated, in part, by the fact that the best, most accessible data set for comparison is from the CEU data set, a population that may have experienced its own founder effect.   My reading is that the Y-chromosome haplotype blocks and mtDNA data are consistent with minimal inward gene flow and small effective population sizes following a Middle Eastern diaspora.  Of course, showing that there likely was or was not a founder effect, although suggestive, does not necessarily imply that the LSD mutations were not or were selected for, respectively.  What we really need is, what does not exist, good anthropological data on population sizes throughout history.

    I do not deny that selection can be powerful.   The use of an artificial selection paradigm (directly selecting on a non-fitness trait) is not the appropriate analysis.  A natural selection regime, wherein IQ was correlated to fitness.  A correlated response to selection.  Trusting your parameters (I am not an anthropologist and was not inclined to play one, even in the blogosphere), the predicted correlated response to selection is much greater than measured.  It is quite possible that some of the parameter assumptions were incorrect.  There are parameter spaces that would allow good agreement between prediction and observation.  Showing that these parameter spaces are in reasonable agreement with the anthropological data would have made a stronger argument.  In Box 1, I alluded just such an effect occurring if one assumes an environmental effect covariance and "heritability" that outweighs that of the additive genetic term.  As this goes beyond environmental effects on IQ, this may be a reasonable scenario.  Of course, the "reasonableness" of selection on IQ is formally independent of the founder effect or the physiological mechanism.

    It appears that we do agree that the effects of heterozygosity for one of the considered LSD mutations should have a detectable affect on IQ.  This hypothesis is testable, but is independent of the founder effect and selection hypotheses.  The effect on IQ may or may not have been selected for (I am not arguing that these are equally likely in these circumstances).  Although we do not agree on the plausability that a substantial subset of LSD and NLSD mutations affect intelligence, I truly hope that Nevo's planned research project was avoided based on plausability and allocation of restricted research fund, not political expediency.  Comfort in our ideas does not serve us well.  The truth does.  
    Stellare
    Blonds are stupid. Jews are intelligent. Both statements that are false?
    I guess some scientists make an honest effort to try to learn something about genetics, but I fear that the subjectivity will rule when it comes to race, gender and intelligence. This will never be exact science.

    PS. I'm trying to help you out a little, Josh. :-)
    Bente Lilja Bye is the author of Lilja - A bouquet of stories about the Earth
    Hank
    What about blonde Jews?

    And blondes can't be that stupid.  We have more women members here than most science sites and the most active ones are blondes.   It's also too new a myth to have much validity.   Supposedly it began with the character Lorelei Lee in Anita Loos'  book "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" (1925) so that's not even a hundred years.  

    I rate people who listen to The Cure as way dumber than blondes.
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    Becky Jungbauer
    Eh, you're biased toward blondes. I am not blonde, by the way. Nor an Ashkenazi Jew. But somehow I still muddle through the day.
    Stellare
    My point exactly, Becky. We can't really tell if blondes, blacks, jews or whatever are more stupid or more intelligent than others because the evaluation of that question will always be biased. I'm not saying that there couldn't  be differences, mind you.

    I have a hunch you would be allowed to reproduce if the >120 IQ rule should ever apply....:-)
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    Becky Jungbauer
    Why thank you! :) I think many of us on the site would, but I may be biased.
    When it comes to differences between individuals, politics -- the larger field of which political correctness is one manifestation -- rules the day. Its requirement is simple: offend no one, especially not by mentioning differences between individuals, which makes people feel uneasy.

    I think it's fairly obvious why Jews have higher IQs: they did, and do now, value education and intelligence more than being popular, being a football star, or ascribing to the moral but impractical constraints of a competing religion. This is selective breeding at its finest. Instead of "find a nice man" the dictum becomes "find a smart, capable, aggressive man," and society upbreeds.

    By the same token, if we did reserve sex for people 120 IQ points and above, it's likely our society would begin again to produce leaders and scientists of great merit, instead of good augmentative researchers and actors behaving like presidents.

    If we did reserve sex for people 120 IQ points and above, it is also likely that we would become extinct even faster due to evolutionary processes. There is something about creating a homogenous population that irks the living hell out of me; despite the fact that we'd have better scientists, reducing the gene pool in itself could possibly be reducing our chances of survival on earth as most would agree. I for one have an extremely terrible IQ, but for the person who believes that great scientific discoveries can only be made by those of high IQ, that is a high level of ignorance. I could care less if a statistical study was done comparing the low IQ to high IQ individuals and P was equal to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, that tiny percentage of those left out may have the answers for living on mars.

    Hank
    "Gattaca" was a good movie because, at least to Americans, we get pretty irked when someone implies they are better because of money, a title or even genetics.    Human willpower and drive isn't genetic.  We evolved as we have today precisely because there was no engineering being done.    And the non genetically optimized hero in that movie got Uma Thurman, so he must have done something right.  

    But if you look at the general intelligence of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha royalty (nee Windsor today), the reigning family in England, you can see that manipulation certainly didn't cause brainpower to go up.
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    If we did reserve sex for people 120 IQ points and above, it is also likely that we would become extinct even faster due to evolutionary processes. There is something about creating a homogenous population that irks the living hell out of me; despite the fact that we'd have better scientists, reducing the gene pool in itself could possibly be reducing our chances of survival on earth as most would agree. I for one have an extremely terrible IQ, but for the person who believes that great scientific discoveries can only be made by those of high IQ, that is a high level of ignorance. I could care less if a statistical study was done comparing the low IQ to high IQ individuals and P was equal to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, that tiny percentage of those left out may have the answers for living on mars.

    jtwitten
    The concern would be selecting for deleterious alleles that are closely linked to genes controlling intelligence over time.  Assortative mating carries the risk of increasing inbreeding.  An extreme example of this can be seen in purebred dog breeding, although modern, qualified breeders try to be more careful than in the past.
    How about sex with two 60 IQ's? Is that allowed?

    Hank
    Most wives and girlfriends say 'no', whatever the IQ of the other participants happens to be.  But let us know how you do.
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    Becky Jungbauer
    Unless one of those 60 IQs is Uma Thurman.
    Just throwing this out:

    We don't necessarily need to prevent people with IQ's under 120 from having sex, we just need to sterilize them Hitler-style.

    (P.S. I hope you all understand that I am not actually for this.)

    jtwitten
    While the tongue-in-cheekiness of your suggestion is obvious, I've actually had individuals suggest the eugenics approach.  The concept of eugenics is not only ethically reprehensible, it also reflects a flawed understanding of molecular genetics, population genetics, and evolution.   

    It should also be noted that relatively sane (compared to Hitler) people, like Woodrow Wilson and James Watson, have historically supported forms of eugenics.  Involuntary sterilization of the mentally handicapped was not a foreign concept in the United States. 

    Gerhard Adam
    Ahhh yes ... eugenics.  The final step in the total domestication of humans.

    The nonsense of about high I.Q's is fundamentally a "something for nothing" perspective.  As if having a high I.Q. somehow defaults to great accomplishments.  I think people tend to forget that the I.Q. distribution in prison isn't substantially different from the population at large.  Remember, Ted Kaczynski was scored at 165.

    The ultimate silliness of eugenics, is that it is invariably intended to advance the genes of its advocates (interesting "natural selection" strategy if you can get it to work).
    logicman
    IQ is whatever is measured by IQ tests.

    Many supposed 'intelligence tests' use 'odd one out' sets of data.  What the testee is being asked to do is, by some magical and unknowable process, decide which of multiple foreground and background variables the test-creator has chosen to ignore in deciding the 'correct' response.   Every single odd-one-out test is a seriously flawed gedankenexperiment purporting to solve the 'other-minds' problem.

    Which is the odd one out?
    a b c  d
    Answer: any one of them.

    Example data set: ear, chest, lip, nose
    answer, and reasoning:
    ear - all of the others contribute to speech production
    chest: it is usually covered by clothing.
    lip: none of the other words is slang for 'insolence'.
    nose: none of the others is of any use to a deaf-blind person in navigating an environment.

    Now it's your turn - which of those four words is 'really' the odd-one-out?  Come on now, hurry!  Your government reproduction licence application depends on you choosing the right answer!

    /end rant>    :)
    Gerhard Adam
    It's obvious .... NOSE ... since no self-respecting test would ever have "nose" for an answer to any question.
    logicman
    no self-respecting test would ever have "nose" for an answer to any question.
    Breeding licence application - refused!  Please reapply in 2150 - or you could try a hefty bribe.
    Gerhard Adam
    ... and what do I tell my kids?  Do this mean I get to ... er, I mean have to send them back?
    logicman
    ... and what do I tell my kids?  Do this mean I get to ... er, I mean have to send them back?
    This sort of situation can only be covered by retrospective legislation - considered unethical by the best jurists and philosophers.  So -

    How much can you afford?
    Is the answer:
    a) $10000
    b) $20000
    c) $50000
    d) all of the above
    e) the hell with you, mate, I'm off to Disneyland with the kids.
    ???

    Back on topic - how do you determine that some biological variable is a function of IQ without providing a specific, validated, testable and applicable theory of what IQ tests measure.  Intelligence?  What is intelligence, that I may measure it ?

    Visuo-spatial manipulation - that rules out the blind, as does
    any written or mere box-ticking test.
    Aural examination on language use, e.g. spelling - that rules out the deaf.
    General knowledge - that rules out rural populations where a trip into town is a major event and 10 kids share one schoolbook.
    Gerhard Adam
    Well that is precisely the problem isn't it.  Intelligence is something that people enjoy talking about, despite the fact that there isn't a single coherent definition of what it actually is.

    As you've indicated, general knowledge is a measure of education, but certainly not intelligence.  Similarly any particular test that depends on exploitation of a particular sense would be biased in favor of those with different perceptions or skills.

    To my way of thinking, the only way to define intelligence and develop a means of measuring it, is when it can be applied to animals.  If there is a way in which an objective measure could be reached in this fashion, then it might be possible to apply it to humans.
    Lip. It's the only one without an "e".

    My gawd,

    All of you other than gcochran sound like the hierarchy of the Medieval Church: "What shall happen when they discover the truth, that the earth is not the center of the universe? We cannot let the peasants know the truth and we shall not speak of it. Those that do, to the dungeons. We shall decide what it is that is best for them to know."

    You are anti-science idiots. Dullards. You are pathetic.

    The man explained the science to you and you returned to the old meme of, "Well, it's better not to speak of the truth."

    How dare you feel the masses ought not to be exposed to a truth, any truth. It's not they who can't handle the truth; it's you.

    You are the embarrassment of the Western world.

    MikeCrow
    What shall happen when they discover the truth, that the earth is not the center of the universe
    Well technically we are at the center of the visible universe, which is the only part we know about....
    Never is a long time.
    Yea, hehehe, so, in other words, Mr. Narcissism committed incest with his sister Miss. Schizophrenia. And, yes, their offsprings, Mr. Lies And Miss. Deceit also committed incest and had children.