Charlie Kirk was shot while exercising his constitutional American right to free speech.  He was shot as if his very voice box had been the target. He was also someone who regularly engaged in racist, sexist, and homophobic rhetoric under the banner of “debate,” which he would either defend with a misuse or misunderstanding of science or the bible. Freedom to say things that are not rooted in any scientific fact or any kind of fact at all while calling them a fact is a protected right.  Including questioning whether Black people have the same intellectual capacity on average as Whites, or if the 1964 civil rights act was a good idea.(FactCheck.org, Snopes )  He was not shot by transgender woman Skye Valdez.  Which is likely to become a new Groyper 4 chan meme.  They'll likely wind up posting their name as the shooter for every shooting from now on.  He was not shot by a Black person or a Latino. The shooter may have been a leftist, or the shooter may have been a Groyper. We don't know but right now in America minorities are being blamed or having fingers pointed at us for something we had essentially nothing to do with. 

Anyone who celebrated his death is a despicable human being. Anyone who has targeted a minority because they think they didn't show enough grief can go straight to hell.  Kirk wanted nothing that we'd agree was good for us but to impose an order that we'd find oppressive. 

I saw that video up close.  No one deserves that for speaking uncomfortable words.  The counter for speech is more speech. 

A Right View.

 I cannot steel man the point of view of people on the right who are reasonable more than the words of thoughtful, reasonable, rational people on the right can themselves.  Here are two.


This man Chris Chappell is a creator I greatly respect and he has not failed me yet.   If you read this and you are a White person YES you can be outraged by anti-White violence.  A problem is what some do with the outrage.  

We don't know if Tyler Robinson was a Groyper or a leftist.

The inscriptions on the bullets are the only clues we have as to his personal politics.  They again were. 
  1. "Notices Bulges OWO What's that"
  2. “hey fascist! catch! ↑→↓↓↓”.  
  3. “oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao.”
  4. "If you read this you are gay. LMAO".  
What I think these mean based on what I know myself. My opinion this is certainly a groyper meme and anti LGBT.  Also a groyper meme, but used by gamers in general. Common online youth spaces that are far right, anarchist, and antifa. Probably groyper meme, clearly anti LGBT.

At the same time he could be a leftist.    What any one must ask for from the right is to not be so sure about the thing they see on social media.  They were all sure 24 hours ago that the killer was a transgender, leftist, radical named Skye Valdez (Who does not appear to be any of those things).  What they are is a transgender person who is not going to wish well to someone who wishes us harm.   Which Charlie Kirk did.   Had Kirk just stood up for detrans people without attacking transpeople that would be fine, I'd support  that actually.  They are a minority within a minority... that has been weaponized in an evil way. 


"Why can't you be properly sad  for Charlie Kirk like we are".  

 If we ever reach a point where the state itself enacts on a White person unjust Geoge Floyd like violence then anti government riots would be justified.   The problem is so often outraged White people act out against minorities who have nothing to do with it. 

Kirk is a man who said things like this.  These being the words of Charlie Kirk: 

“If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us ... You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, July 13th, 2023

Some might call this Irish times piece a Hit piece.   These are his words. He said a lot of stuff like that.  If minister Louis Farrakhan is killed tomorrow I do not expect White people to mourn hard for someone who said some things that went beyond pro Black and into hard core anti-White and Anti Semetic statements.    At the same time I'd hope they can understand why Black people who don't hate them, might just mourn for him in the same way they mourn for Kirk.  

Let me tell you what does sadden me.  Kirk could be said to have had a White Malcolm X like quality. Malcolm called White people devils.  Granted he'd seen his father lynched and all the horrors of life for a Black person in the 1940's 50's and 60's.   Times Kirk thought were better for us.  Like Malcolm before he turned from the Nation of Islam, Kirk thought and said some evil things.   He never got to "go on Hajj" as it were, and see that the places and people he spoke of were not like that.  

I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca. I have made my seven circuits around the Ka’ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad. I drank water from the well of Zem Zem. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al-Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat. There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blonds to black skin Africans. But we were all participating in the same rituals, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had lead me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white. America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem.
Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have considered ‘white’— but the ‘white’ attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.
The tragedy is that unlike a trip to Mecca for so many on the right the inner most city of just about any "blue city" would be like that.  Yet so many are so scared that they never ever go on a trip that would just be a drive of an hour or two and check for themselves if what they see on OANN or NewsMax is accurate.  Chicago isn't on another continent.   The most probable outcome of going to the vaunted south side of Chicago is cheap shopping and good food.  It is not at all remarkable to see White people in a Black neighborhood anywhere or vice versa here.  
 
If you are one who lives in a Red state and have never been to a blue state or city but only seen what is said on this or that platform go and see for yourself.  Will you see signs of crime and homelessness maybe.  More likely you'll just see a lot of people going about their lawful business.

Charlie Kirk never seems to have gotten around to that.  If he did it had no effect on him.  So sure he was that normalcy is the exception rather than the rule. 

If God forbid Minister Louis Farrakhan were shot tomorrow.  I'd not expect members of communities he maligned to mourn him.  I'd expect them to remember the horrible things he said about them.  I'd hope they can understand what he meant to his friends, allies, and community.  So, To Charlie Kirk an American I place on the same level as Louis Farrakhan. 

NOTE: As of this writing there is a unconfirmed report that Tyler Robinson had a transgender roomate/girlfriend.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095195/tyler-robinson-roommate-text-messages-cops-arrest-utah.html  See and judge for yourself.   

NOTE2: Axios reports that the person is transgender per 6 sources but like was so very early in transition they hadn't done much.  Some reporters on this act like it would be just one doctors appointment... like getting Botox or something.   Either there was no transgender person involved  for the one that did turned in the shooter who as someone they loved, a hero.  Lets see how it is reported on.