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    Academic Science Careers Bad For Women?
    By Michael White | June 10th 2009 03:59 PM | 18 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    This study on "Gender Differences at Critical Transitions in the Careers of Science" is now old news, but it hasn't answered many of the questions we're interested in about women in academic science careers. Women in 2004 and 2005 at top research universities were as successful as men in obtaining academic jobs and tenure, but the rub is that women are less likely to apply for academic or go up for tenure.

    Why? Well, like I said, there are more questions that have to be addressed before we know why, but I'm betting that a big part of the problem is this:

    Canizares of MIT said that he saw one area where he feared research universities were becoming bad employers for both male and female scientists. He noted that with more departments expecting multiple years as a postdoc before becoming an assistant professor, new Ph.D.'s are increasingly facing the prospect of longer and longer time periods "before knowing where [they] are going to end up," and even more years before knowing if they will earn tenure.

    "We are making the career less attractive for both men and women, but women have extra factors that make that time scale particularly unattractive," he said.

    I can say this from experience: without question it's hard on men with children, and I'm sure it's worse in general for women who are trying to balance career and family. Biology is one of the worst fields in terms of time from PhD to that first faculty job and time to tenure, and, not surprisingly, biology was the worst field in the study in terms of women failing to apply for tenure-track jobs: plenty of women get biology PhDs, but few apply for academic jobs.

    Here's my experience: I've been a postdoc three years, after almost 6 years in grad school. I have three kids, one who just finished 4th grade. I'm in my early 30's. And in a year or two, who knows where we'll live? At my age and with my family size, I should be settling down somewhere, saving for my kids' college educations, and basically establishing myself somewhere in the middle-class American Dream.

    The reality is that, after 10 years of training and research experience, I have no long-term (not to mention medium-term) job security, no retirement benefits, my health insurance is mediocre, and one significant health crisis could easily send us into a financial tailspin.

    The bottom line is this: a career in academic science, especially biology, demands a lot of you in terms of training, skill, time, and dedication, and the rewards are uncertain and in any case a long way off. Obviously doing science is great, which is why a lot of people still go into the career, yet perhaps we're luring in fresh undergraduate recruits with a little bit of false advertising: you go in thinking what could be better than having the same kind of job Einstein had, and then, 12 years later, it dawns on you that it's actually kind of hard to stake your claim to a corner of the scientific landscape that shows potential for paradigm-shifting discoveries. You can go through years of training, letting the opportunity costs add up, and wind up working on research problems that are interesting, but not enough to keep away the doubts about your career choice and the opportunities you gave up to pursue science.

    I've seen it happen repeatedly. Personally, I love what I do and, having been born when my father was in grad school, staying on the move until he got his current academic job when I was 12 years old, I came into this job with my eyes open.

    So why are women dropping out of academic science careers? There could be more to it, but surely the fact that we keep stringing people along for too many years with the tantalizing but uncertain promise of a lab of one's own plays some role.



    Comments

    antunes
    I concur with Michael and the original article on this one.  As a kid-raising (daddy-track) scientist, I realize my choice of career is counterproductive to having an a) family or even b) life.   And, as with Michael, it turns out the 'must focus 150% on career' years neatly coincide with the 'must be home for kids' years.  The four solutions I see most often for balancing raising a family and being a scientist are:

    1. be political: focus on job advancement over personal research choice
    2. have a stay-at-home spouse to take care of the kids
    3. choose a service track over a research track (e.g. programmer not theorist)
    4. juggle science and focusing on the kids

    For men, these can be labeled "fast tracker", "traditional provider", "service work", and "daddy track".  For women, this gets labeled "bitch", "butch", "couldn't cut it" and "mommy track".

    Alex, the daytime astronomer
    Hfarmer
    LMAO

    For men, these can be labeled "fast tracker", "traditional provider", "service work", and "daddy track".  For women, this gets labeled "bitch", "butch", "couldn't cut it" and "mommy track".

    That hits the nail right on the head in a funny way.  Our society has different standards for success of men and women.  For the most part a womans standard of success is not financial or intellectual, it is being a hot young woman, then a biological mother. As unfair as that is, it can be hard for a woman who is a scientist to ignore that.  Don't even get me started on the reason a woman might want to turn away from a career as a professor to find a man... Basically unless you find a professor, or some man with equal prestige, you will be a very lonely girl, unless you can play dumb at the bar.   That's the way it is. Real talk.
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    Becky Jungbauer
    As Hontas says, you nailed it. I left academia for other reasons - I'm not on the family track - but I do understand the pressures of being in academia, male or female. Why is it that men are fast trackers but women are bitches, if they ascribe to option 1? Of my friends who went to and/or stayed in academia, none of us have kids - and we're mostly of the first category. Of my friends who got business degrees or other broad degrees (e.g. philosphy) with no intention of grad school, they all are married and have kids. Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe people who are more focused on 2 and 3 select different careers than people who are in category 1, or even category 4.

    My silver fox and I had an argument related to this the other day. Why do women get several weeks off for maternity leave, but the guys, if they get any, are granted maybe a week or two? What does that say about the expected roles of each? Why, as the woman, am I expected to take off time from my job if I don't want to, yet he has to take vacation if he does?
    Hfarmer
    On the issue of leave.  The woman gives birth.  That is the one thing (not the only thing) which is by definition what a woman does.  There is no way around that or on how taxing an experinece pregnancy and birth are.  For that reason women get more leave.
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    Becky Jungbauer
    That was part of my argument too. I said because the woman gives birth, she needs time to recoup - and it's hard to do that if you also have to take care of a newborn. Why wouldn't the guy be given time to take care of the kid while the mom rests?
    Hfarmer
    I can only think of an irrational reason for that.  Society places expectations on men as well.  A man staying home to take care of the kids will seem soft and effeminate to many.   Even in this day and age where women can, if they want, take up traditionally defined male roles the opposite is not true.  Males hunt and are transient, women gather/farm and stay in one place. (OK so my N.A. ancestry is why I think that but you know what I mean.)
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    adaptivecomplexity
    Why is it that men are fast trackers but women are bitches, if they ascribe to option 1? 
    This is a big problem, and actually an issue that relates to all of the options. When it comes to choosing to have children, the culture is such that for women it's frequently viewed very explicitly as an either/or choice - your career or your kids. For men, the decision to have children is more often considered their own business, even though it's a big time commitment for men too.
    So again, women suffer more from the negative perceptions of the community, even though there is not much of a basis for these perceptions.



    Mike
    "we keep stringing people along for too many years"

    Could this be caused by too many PhDs out there competing for too few jobs?

    antunes
    "we keep stringing people along for too many years"

    Could this be caused by too many PhDs out there competing for too few jobs?

    Stringing people along has always been part of academia, I think, a sort of " admit 'em all and see who survives".    There's also been some broad funding setbacks-- tenure positions being replaced with adjuncts, salaried positions replaced with soft-money, et cetera.  The amount of science work out there is being done is certainly not decreasing, though, and a Ph.D. was never a guarantee.

    But a harder market means that soft criteria like discrimination (gender, race, age, disability) is that much more of a barrier-- hard to let change evolve if initial change can't get started.  Statistically, a small group of 10 geese aren't going to vote an ugly duckling in to join them.

    Alex, Ph.D.
    adaptivecomplexity
    That's definitely an issue, and I'm not sure what the solution is. But part of the problem is that there is such a large need for grad students and postdocs, so you have an incentive to pull people into the system, in temporary jobs, and keep them there for a very long time.
    An alternate option is to have the make-or-break point come much earlier, somehow - have harder limits on how long people can be grad students or postdocs, and then either give them a job or send them on their way. Right now, a 1-year postdoc going on the job market is competing with 3-6 year postdocs (and often with people who have served two postdocs). 
    Mike
    We're not biologists, but this is a huge reason my husband and I are still kidless. Raising a family is a huge responsibility, which will take its toll on your career, be it in academics or not. Do we want to do both jobs half-assed? Not really. But one doesn't pay the money required to pay the bills and instead makes more bills. Hence the conundrum.

    I've known for a long time that this is how my life is going to look, but seeing it laid out like that is a bit disheartening. Thanks, Mike, for breaking my spirit.

    Love,
    You Undergraduate

    I now realize that my comment does not come across as sarcastic as I intended it to be. Don't worry, immediately after reading this, I received a healthy dose of "Here at Jax our summer students become Nobel Prize winners and we'll cure the world before bedtime." Now my confidence that I'll see a secure career at some point in my life is restored.

    Love, once again,
    Your Undergraduate (Sans typos. I hope.)

    adaptivecomplexity
    I'm glad I could lay it out so clearly! I'm impressed that I can break your spirit even when you're away doing cool summer research.  If you can survive having your spirit broken, then you're a great candidate for an academic research position.
    There is no question that academic science is a great career - the people I know with real faculty jobs just love what they do, and they wouldn't trade it for anything. Unfortunately you have to go through hell, in many cases, to get that kind of a job. 

    If our goal is to not drive talented women out of the profession (which is an excellent goal), then we need to reconsider what kinds burdens we place on people before they become eligible for a faculty position.
    Oh, and yes, I did get the sarcasm!



    Mike
    Georg von Hippel
    extra factors that make that time scale particularly unattractive -- Also known as a biological clock. We men just have the luxury of a snooze button on ours.

    The phenomenon of women becoming rarer and rares as one climbs the academic ladder is also known as the problem of the "leaky pipeline": at each stage, talented women are lost from the system, and it is really not that hard to guess that the uncertainty about the future that is pretty much intrinsic to an academic career until a fairly advanced (st)age is a major, if not the major, contributing factor. Earlier winnowing out (fewer PhD students, far fewer postdocs), counterbalanced by earlier tenure-track options for those who make the cut, could go a long way towards both solving the gender problem and increasing the general desirability of academia as a career for the best and the brightest.
    Hank
    We can't do anything about biology.    When women go for faculty positions, there is no difference in gender/bias for how often they get them; that's the best we can hope for.

    Best and brightest in academia is a different issue.   In (US anyway) academia, a whole host of cultural/bias issues prevent a huge swath of smart people from being able to participate.    You think women are a minority in tenured folk for being 50% of the population?   Try finding a Republican.
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    adaptivecomplexity
    We can't do anything about biology.    When women go for faculty positions, there is no difference in gender/bias for how often they get them; that's the best we can hope for.
    Actually, I think part of the answer is what Georg emphasized - an early winnowing-out process to seek out the top talent. Other fields do this better than biology - computer scientists can pick up faculty positions before they've finished writing a thesis.
    Right now in biology, a I'll bet that a main cause of the 'leaky pipeline' is the fact that you have to endure career uncertainty for so long. If it's going to take you 3-6 years post-PhD before you can even consider applying competitively for a faculty job, then a lot of talented people, women especially, will drop out before they even apply for a faculty position.


    So we can hope for better.

    Mike
    adaptivecomplexity
    Try finding a Republican.
    I think, in the sciences anyway, you're overestimating the political skew.  In the humanities, it's a different story.
    Mike