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    On Mathematical Platonism
    By Massimo Pigliucci | September 21st 2012 09:50 PM | 11 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Recently I have been intrigued by James Ladyman and Don Ross’s ideas about naturalistic metaphysics and in the course of my discussion of their book, Every Thing Must Go, I pointed out that those ideas (as the authors themselves recognize) are compatible with one form or another of mathematical Platonism (hear also Ladyman on the RS podcast). I have also for a while been somewhat sympathetic to the latter notion, which has surprised some of my readers on the ground that it is (allegedly) incompatible with naturalism. It isn’t, but it seems to me time to explore a bit more in detail what one might mean by mathematical Platonism, and what reasons, if any, there are to entertain the notion seriously.

    In this post, I will follow closely the excellent summary of the nature of the debate on mathematical Platonism offered by Øystein Linnebo, though the book by James Brown on the philosophy of mathematics is also an excellent, if opinionated, source.

    To begin with, just to clear the air of a possible misunderstanding, mathematical Platonism — despite the name — bears little correspondence to Plato’s theory of forms. The latter, it may be recalled, was based on the notion that the world as we perceive it is but a pale reflection, a shadow (as in the famous metaphor of the cave) of the real world of pure concepts, to which, however, it is related. So for Plato there are the chairs of our everyday experience and then there is the ideal of a Chair, there are good things in the world and the ideal of Good itself, and so on.

    Mathematical Platonism, instead, is a much more metaphysically circumscribed notion about the ontology of a particular category of abstract objects, those of concern to mathematicians (like numbers, sets, and so on). To be precise, Linnebo defines mathematical Platonism as the conjunction of these three theses:

    Existence: There are mathematical objects.

    Abstractness: Mathematical objects are abstract.

    Independence: Mathematical objects are independent of intelligent agents and their language, thought, and practices.

    As we shall see, only the last thesis, Independence, is controversial, and whether one accepts all or only a subset of the above theses defines what sort of ontology one is willing to attribute to mathematical objects.

    Let us then start with what is likely the least controversial thesis, that of Existence. Linnebo mentions that the famous logician Frege proposed the following argument in defense of the existence of mathematical objects:

    Premise 1 (Truth): Most sentences accepted as mathematical theorems are true.

    Premise 2: Let S be one such sentence.

    Premise 3 (Classical Semantics): The singular terms of the language of mathematics — such as S — purport to refer to mathematical objects, and mathematical language’s first-order quantifiers purport to range over such objects.

    Premise 4: By Classical Semantics, the Truth of S requires that its singular terms succeed in referring to mathematical objects.

    Conclusion: Hence there must be mathematical objects, as asserted by Existence.

    The second premise is a simple stipulation, so it cannot be challenged. Premise 1 could be challenged, but only at the cost of doing away with much mathematics and its well established applications to science, clearly not a viable route. (Linnebo presents a number of ways to defend the Truth premise, the most convincing of which is the so-called indispensability (of mathematics to science) argument proposed by Quine and Putnam.) Premise 4 is a straightforward derivation of Premises 1-3, so the only thing that could possibly be argued is the truth of Premise 3, but very few philosophers and logicians have seriously questioned classical semantics (see Linnebo’s article for a discussion of this point), therefore we have to agree that mathematical objects exist.

    Now that we have Existence, what about the second thesis, Abstractness? Interestingly, this is by far the least controversial piece of the puzzle, as most philosophers think Abstractness so likely that there are few explicit defenses (or criticisms) of it. Linnebo summarizes the situation by simply stating that if mathematical objects were not abstract then mathematicians — like scientists — should be concerned about their location and other physical attributes. Since mathematicians, and — more importantly — the practice of mathematics itself, don’t concern themselves with such things, this is a good prima facie argument for the abstractness of mathematical objects.

    Even if we accept both Existence and Abstractness we have not arrived at mathematical Platonism just yet. Rather, we can think of ourselves at this point as anti-nominalists, since nominalism is the philosophical position that there are no abstract objects. Anti-nominalism, it should be obvious, is logically weaker than full fledged mathematical Platonism (which, recall, requires all three theses: Existence, Abstractness and Independence).

    Here Linnebo makes an intriguing observation: few philosophers deny the independence of mathematical objects from the existence of minds capable of thinking about them not much because there are a lot of arguments in favor of the thesis, but rather because it would not be at all clear what it would mean for the thesis to fail. Be that as it may, there are some arguments in favor of Independence, most famously those formulated by Kurt Gödel (he of the incompleteness theorems that famously undermined Russell and Whitehead’s quest for self-sufficient logical foundations of mathematics). Gödel proposed two arguments to establish Independence. Due to my limited understanding of mathematical theory, I will simply let Linnebo summarize them both:

    First, “the legitimacy of impredicative definitions is best explained by the truth of some form of Platonism [according to Gödel], including something like [the] claim [of] Independence.” Second, “Much of the search for new axioms in set theory is today based on so-called ‘extrinsic justifications,’ where candidate axioms are assessed not just for their intrinsic plausibility but also for their capacity to explain and systematize more basic mathematical facts. Perhaps this methodology can somehow be used to motivate Independence.” Again, however, recall that the stronger argument in favor of Independence appears to be simply how hard it is to fathom the meaning of its failure.

    There are, naturally, plenty of objections (and counter-objections) to the notion of mathematical Platonism. Arguably the most obvious one is the issue of epistemic access, which asks how exactly we can gain reliable mathematical knowledge (which we apparently do) if mathematical objects really are abstract and mind-independent. We know how we get epistemic access to mind-independent physical objects (planets, say), but what human sense could possibly be involved in mathematical knowledge? The epistemic access objection is based on a crucial demand for a causal explanation of the reliability of mathematical knowledge, but as it turns out some philosophers have proposed more minimal accounts of reliability that do not involve causality (not even Linnebo gets into this, but he does provide references to the relevant primary literature).

    An interesting objection to mathematical Platonism is of a metaphysical nature, and it basically states that there is nothing to mathematical objects (say, numbers) outside relations to other such objects. In other words, there really aren’t “objects” at all, just relations. There are, naturally, counters to this argument too. The idea that natural numbers have only structural properties is apparently rejected by logicist and neo-logicist philosophers on the grounds that numbers are tied to the cardinals of the collections they number.

    Moreover, structuralist philosophers reject the notion that there cannot be objects characterized only by structural properties. Which, as the attentive reader might have surmised, brings us right back to Ladyman and Ross, since their contention is that even what we think of as physical objects are nothing, at the bottom, but loci of relational properties (hence the title of their book, every thing must go). If that’s not a problem for physical objects it is hard to see why it would be for abstract ones.

    To recap, there are strong positive arguments in favor of the Existence and Abstract theses, the acceptance of which at the very least commits one to anti-nominalism in the philosophy of mathematics. In order to be a full fledged mathematical Platonist one also has to accept (or at the least not reject) the further Independence thesis. We have seen that direct arguments in favor of this thesis do exist, but that the most convincing one for philosophers is actually the difficulty of making sense of the failure of the thesis.

    Of course all of the above can and have been debated, but at the very least implies that mathematical Platonism is not at all a fanciful or irrational position (it is apparently accepted by most mathematicians, not just by philosophers of mathematics and logicians). Notice also that nothing that we have discussed is in any way incompatible with naturalism (as, again, Ladyman and Ross also stress). So until further notice consider me a naturalistic anti-nominalist with strong tendencies toward Platonism in mathematics.

    First appeared on Rationally Speaking, 9/14/12

    Comments

    A very interesting idea, but not being a professional mathematician (nor a professional philosopher) I find the objections against the position that "there is nothing to mathematical objects outside relations to other such objects" unconvincing.

    Mathematics starts van from axioms A1, A2 ... An ... that contain undefined terms T1, T2 ... Tm ... All mathematical theorems I know have (implicitely or explicitely) the form

    IF ( A1, A2 .... ) THEN some sort of proposition about T1, T2 ...

    To quote you: "In other words, there really aren’t “objects” at all, just relations."

    I don't see how the idea that "numbers are tied to the cardinals of the collections they number" is an objection to this position. Of course, cardinals are eminently applicable to the number of element in particular sets (or collections), certainly when these cardinals are finite. But once you leave the realm of naive set theory (once you're doing proper mathematics in other words), you need axioms to base your cardinals and numbers on, and you end up in IF/THEN constructions - you're talking about relations.

    The objections that "structuralist philosophers reject the notion that there cannot be objects characterized only by structural properties" seems unconvincing to me too. It suffices that the *mathematical* properties of objects are characterized by structural properties. It's possible that other, non-mathematical properties are not characterized by these properties, but that's not relevant for mathematics.

    Lex Anderson
    To begin with, just to clear the air of a possible misunderstanding, mathematical Platonism — despite the name — bears little correspondence to Plato’s theory of forms
    Thank you for clarifying this rather confusing notion. I still remain somewhat confused, so I am not entirely sure if my comments are applicable to this subject or not.
    1 (Truth): Most sentences accepted as mathematical theorems are true.
    While it is necessary for a mathematical theorem to be provably true, the same is not expected of an axiomatic statement. If a mathematical theorem is proven, then the question of acceptance surrounds the veracity of the axioms upon which it is based. A good example here is the axiom of infinity, which is clearly an unprovable notion, yet is widely accepted in mathematics: Not because it is true, but because such a notion has been found to be useful in a theoretical setting. The same principle applies to the axiom of choice, which was not accepted for a very long time but is now generally accepted for the same reasons.
    The second premise is a simple stipulation, so it cannot be challenged. 
    I disagree. If we accept premise 1, then must we not also accept that true but unprovable sentences such as the "Gödel sentences" belong to the domain of S?
    Conclusion: Hence there must be mathematical objects, as asserted by Existence. 
    If the intention is to assert that mathematical objects exist because there exist (provably true) mathematical theorems that themselves assert the existence of mathematical objects -- then by even less stringent standards than mathematical logic, this argument seems to be somewhat reductio ad absurdum.
    Now that we have Existence, what about the second thesis, Abstractness? Interestingly, this is by far the least controversial piece of the puzzle, as most philosophers think Abstractness so likely that there are few explicit defenses (or criticisms) of it. Linnebo summarizes the situation by simply stating that if mathematical objects were not abstract then mathematicians — like scientists — should be concerned about their location and other physical attributes. Since mathematicians, and — more importantly — the practice of mathematics itself, don’t concern themselves with such things, this is a good prima facie argument for the abstractness of mathematical objects.
    Perhaps this is central to the confusion. In a mathematical setting, there is no philosophical requirement for existential quantification and especially none that requires such quantities to be concretely instantiable. Non-science might even be characterized by the assumption that any conjecture (mathematical or otherwise) is somehow independent of phenomenological confirmation. If mathematics+observation is what is meant by mathematical Platonism, then it already exists: It's simply called science. [After a closer reading I suspect that the intended meaning is closer to mathematics+metaphysics.]
    Thor Russell
    To me mathematical Platonism seems to relate to how universal or independent of humans mathematics is. The two positions on this would seem to be that a non-Platonist would say that our mathematics is more an expression of the structure of our brain as a result of our evolution and culture. i.e. Just as art/music is not timeless and universal but very much human, so is mathematics. A Platonist would seem to say that our mathematics is so universal that any intelligent organism/creature/system anywhere (in any possible universe perhaps) would always discover the same maths e.g. no matter how alien a creature, natural numbers would always be "natural". 


    However there seems to be an obvious objection to Independence not mentioned. Any system to begin with can't define all its terms because when you start with nothing you can't define anything. In maths I am told the empty set or some concept of number has to just be assumed. Everything else from then on can be defined. Therefore to understand maths you have to exist in the real world and have some intuitive non-mathematical understanding of a number. You could argue then that if we evolved in an entirely different environment our first assumed, undefined concept would be different and so everything else would be also. I also don't see why the consequences of Independence being false is so hard to accept. 
    Thor Russell
    Mark Sloan
    At least the kinds of mathematical objects I am normally concerned with (numbers, operations, and functions) are arguably independent of intelligent agents and their language, thought, and practices because those objects, as I understand them, are functions of the conservation laws and symmetries of our physical reality. That is, 2 + 2 must be equal to 4 because anything else would be a conservation violation and our physical reality could not exist. Then other common operations and functions have a similar a priori existence determined by conservation laws and symmetries of rotation and translation. 

    I have never seen this argument made (perhaps for good reasons), and there could be mathematical objects that it does not apply to, but it is a simple argument for the mathematical Platonism of at least simple mathematical objects.
    Thor Russell
    Then surely 2+2=4 is an abstract representation of our reality and how our universe works, so how is it somehow independent of reality as we know it? Surely you first have to have an intuitive understanding of "2" and numbers which doesn't come from mathematics first. To even write "2" and have it mean something you need to relate it to our universe with our intelligence.
    Thor Russell
    Mark Sloan
    Thor, yes, 2+2=4 is an abstract representation of our reality and how our universe works. But this also is true of our universe’s conservation laws and symmetries. 

    So reapplying your argument, don’t we have to have an intuitive understanding of “our universe’s conservation laws and symmetries” to even write "our universe’s conservation laws and symmetries" and have it mean something? Then you would need to relate "our universe’s conservation laws and symmetries" to our universe with our intelligence. 

    To be consistent, would not you have to say then that “our universe’s conservation laws and symmetries” are not arguably independent of intelligent agents? That seems to me to not be a useful understanding of “independent of intelligent agents and their language, thought, and practices”. 

    Imagine 2 + 2 somehow became equal to 3 or 5. In either case, stars would instantly vanish or go to infinite mass. Whether intelligent agents existed would have nothing to do with the matter.


    Thor Russell
    Don't think you have understood what I meant. Not sure that we mean the same thing by independence also. I expect we are talking past each other. 
    Of course if 2+2=5 the universe wouldn't work. My point sort of was that this fact about the universe is our motivation to invent numbers etc. So if we invent numbers to reflect our everyday experiences of our universe, (even these things that are essential to reality as we know it such as 2+2=4) then our motivation and starting point is the physical world, not some kind of timeless platonic ideal. 

    Yes 2+2=4 is independent of intelligent agents, and the fact that we use numbers is because they are an abstraction of the things like conservation laws you talk about. So if our maths is a reflection and abstraction of laws that are required to make our universe work, that isn't independence to me. It may be to you. 

    I took independence to mean a more extreme claim that maths existed in some platonic place outside of physical universes. So I may agree with the definition that mathematical objects are independent of intelligent agents and hence all intelligent agents in our universe come up with similar maths etc but not that they are independent of our universe if this makes sense to you. There may be possible universes incomprehensible to us that exist in some sense and allow some kind of intelligence with physical laws very different to ours. Such intelligences could have different maths to us. Impossible for us to prove either way of course. 


    Thor Russell
    Mark Sloan
    Thor, we are using different meanings of independence. I am using Massimo's quote of Linnebo’s definition: 
     Independence: Mathematical objects are independent of intelligent agents and their language, thought, and practices. 

    In this definition of independence, there is no claim that mathematical objects are independent of our physical universe. This definition is fully consistent with different mathematics in universes with different physics.
    "At least the kinds of mathematical objects I am normally concerned with (numbers, operations, and functions) are arguably independent of intelligent agents and their language, thought, and practices because those objects, as I understand them, are functions of the conservation laws and symmetries of our physical reality."

    If I understand this correctly, you explain certain properties of mathematical propositions (independence of language etc.) by refering to the physical reality these propositions describe. I find this unconvincing. Take the axiom of choice. I don't think there's a physical reality corresponding to the axiom of choice. But theorems proven with this axiom do have - at least for me - the same independence of language, personal preferences etc. as other mathematical theorems.

    Sorry, that should have been "the truth or falsity of theorems proven with this axiom ... " etc.

    Mark Sloan
    Anonymous, “the kinds of mathematical objects I am normally concerned with” do describe and are dependent on physical reality. These kinds of mathematical objects would likely be of little to no practical use (meaning use dependent on their basis in physical reality) if they were not. 

    Certainly, If the axiom of choice in set theory has no necessary relation to physical reality, then it likely (must?) have dependence on intelligent agents. 

    My comment was motivated by some silly assertions (by people who otherwise appeared very well educated) I recently read to the effect that 2+2 = 4 only as a result of our evolutionary history.