Homeopathic Vaccines: Canadian Scientists Do A Giant Face-Palm
    By Hank Campbell | May 9th 2013 05:00 AM | 15 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
    Vaccines are good.

    Infectious diseases are no longer the leading cause of death like they were a century ago. Sure, they are also big business now, as marketing for HPV and Shingles can attest, but that doesn't mean just anything can or should be a vaccine.

    Except in Canada. 

    Health Canada has licensed 10 products with a homeopathic preparation called “influenzinum” for "preventing the flu and its related symptoms" and even homeopathic preparations to prevent polio, measles and pertussis - despite the fact that they are so diluted they have no active ingredient at all, they are just placebos.

    That's dangerous 'natural medicine' fanaticism at work, folks. And natural medicine people are doing themselves and the public a real disservice by not calling out these crackpots.

    Homeopaths bilk the public by comparing themselves to vaccines. A vaccine uses a tiny amount of an infectious agent to create an immune system reaction and build up resistance whereas homeopathy is literally translated as "similar suffering" - they think they can prevent malaria by giving people malaria-like symptoms.

    We have a growing contingent of people who regard medicine as some sort of postmodernist scam; all you have to do is believe something else and you'll be fine.  That is why, writes Dr. Lloyd Oppel in British Columbia Medical Journal, Canada’s Public Health Agency estimates that only 62% of 2-year-olds are up to date with their vaccines.

    Health Canada simply maintains it is saying the products are safe. Well, of course they are safe. It's magic water. No one should be spending money on that.

    And no evidence-based governing body should be conflating 'it won't harm you' with 'it is medicine'.

    Citation: Lloyd Oppel, MD, 'Health Canada licenses homeopathic vaccines', BCMJ, Vol. 55, No. 4, May 2013, page(s) 201-202 

    H/T Glendon Mellow

    Comments

    Well, seeing that:

    "Fraudster gets ten years after selling fake 'ionic charge' bomb detectors"

    maybe one should take a leaf out of that kind of book.

    On another tack, I wonder why no-one is selling "homeopathic radioactive iodine" to combat the effects of radioactive iodine. That sounds like a cash cow ready for the milking, once one can show to the regulators that there is, in fact, no decaying substance in the sugar pill.

    Hank
    That's a great idea. How about I market it and then give you a tiny, tiny percentage of the profit?  You really only need one penny to get the full effect of a million dollars anyway.  :)
    You really only need one penny to get the full effect of a million dollars anyway.
    That's what banks do with fractional reserve banking. 
     
    logicman
    Coincidence: I am at this moment pulling together some notes from my computers and am writing the first draft of an article on so-called water memory.
    Gerhard Adam
    You mean like, how does water remember that it's water? :) 

    ... or is this going to provide a simple cheap way to take backups?
    Mundus vult decipi
    logicman
    how does water remember that it's water?
    It keeps reminding itself.
    Gerhard Adam
    "Think wet, think wet, think wet,"
    Mundus vult decipi
    logicman
    For more dry humor:
    authentic_biography_of h2o
    Much of the claimed reductions in disease due to vaccines occured before they were introduced, That is to say they are so magical that they reduced diseased even before anyone took them.

    Hank
    Even crazier, some people with weakened immune systems benefit without taking vaccines at all.  That's what herd immunity is.  Or magic, to homeopathy buyers.
    logicman
    ... they reduced diseases even before anyone took them.
    The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline, Asimov (1948)
    No, they didn't.

    Influenzinum has studies showing it cuts several days off of a typical flu, as opposed to anti- virals which only reduce by one day and sometimes come with serious side effects. Two of the studies on influenzinum received the highest Cohrane review. One of the tenets of a good debate is that both parties be informed about the topic being debated. The Royal London Homeopathic Hospital saved thousands of lives during epidemics of cholera, yellow fever and many other illnesses over the last 100 years. Over a hundred thousand board certified homeopathic medical doctors practice worldwide. The (highly conservative) Swiss government just concluded, after an exhaustive multi-year study that homeopathy is effective and should be incorporated into their medical system. Homeopathic remedies have proven effective in babies and animals. Thousands of farmers rely on it to prevent and treat disease in livestock.

    Anyone with an open mind could learn about the effectiveness of homeopathy. Here is a partial list of studies which cover many areas of homeopathy.

    http://hpathy.com/scientific-research/research-in-homoeopathy/

    I believe in free choice in medicine. Anyone who wishes to keep taking toxic pharmaceutical drugs, which do not cure, should have that option also.

    Alan V. Schmukler

    Hank
     it cuts several days off of a typical flu
    What does that even mean? How do you replicate that? 

    It can't be effective, it doesn't work, it is not being close-minded to say that praying to a squirrel does not prevent or help with the flu - however, some people who pray to squirrels will cut "several days off a typical flu" and they will then swear by it. That is why actual medicine has to be better than a placebo.
    logicman
    Anyone with an open mind could learn about the effectiveness of homeopathy.

    Requiring someone to open their mind -
    ... is generally a means of asserting that "I don't like the fact that you're proving me wrong, so I will pretend that your failure to agree with my argument is a philosophical deficiency".


    By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.

    Rationalwiki

    See also: water memory.