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    Right Under Our Eyes: Nibiru On Its Way?
    By Johannes Koelman | April 1st 2012 01:40 AM | 2012 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Ridicule might delay truth but it can't replace it. In recent weeks astonishing rumors have been spreading fast in science circles, and soon the wider public will be in the know. According to these rumors, despite all the denial and ridicule, planet Nibiru is real. Yes, you read that correctly. Nibiru is a fact. Science leaders are ready to admit the observation of Nibiru.

    This rogue object was there all the time. Right under our eyes. Since the days of Galileo we are aware of its existence. Initially it was mistaken for a star, and later for a solar system planet. It's neither. 



    We currently know Nibiru as Neptune, allegedly the ninth planet. It simply isn't. You could call it the 8.5th planet: a massive object disguising itself as a planet in-between the 8th and 9th stable planetary orbits. Astronomers now refer to Neptune as a WIMP, a Wandering Immensely Massive Planetoid. WIMPs are dark objects that appear to be abundant in the universe and make up most of its mass. They wander from planetary system to planetary system, leaving a trail of havoc. 


    Nibiru Cataclysm

    The breaking news is that our solar WIMP, aka Nibiru, aka Planet-X, aka Neptune, is behaving according to the Mayan and Nostradamian prophecies. It is leaving its unstable orbit and will soon be on its way to Earth. Large-scale computations by a NASA team headed by Dr. Nancy Lieder have revealed that this WIMP weighing in at 17 times Earth, will approach our planet at the end-date of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, December this year. The good news is: there will be no collision.

    I repeat: NIBIRU AND EARTH WON'T COLLIDE. 

    However, that does not mean the close encounter will not affect us. Far from that. On December 21st, at the point of closest approach, Nibiru's gravitational forces will cause unparalleled tidal effects on Earth's oceans, and large-scale global tsunamis will result.





    Yet there is no need for panic. A tsunami predicted well in advance need not make any victims. Key is to take precautionary measures and to make sure you are at a safe place when this global tsunami hits. And that safe place is... far away at sea. Where the sea is deep, tsunamis go unnoticed. To make sure you and your loved ones survive the impending Nibiru cataclysm you find at the bottom of this blog post instructions on how to pre-order your own Joint Escape Sea Unit - System II. With this unit and a dose of common sense, likelihood is that you and your loved ones will survive Nibiru. And according to the prophesies, a new era full of promises will await the survivors.

    --> Scroll down to the pre-order information in case you are less interested in the scientific background to, and evidence for, the Nibiru encounter as explained by Dr. Nancy Lieder. <--



    How Do We Know?

    The amazing thing is that the key evidence that is coming to light is three centuries old. Nancy Lieder explains: "We could have realized there is something fishy about Neptune since the time of the discovery of the Titius-Bode law". Nancy puts a graph on the table.



    The blue horizontal lines denote the distances from the sun (semi-major axis in light seconds) as predicted by the Titius-Bode law. The yellow bullets indicate the observed distances to the sun for subsequent planetary bodies: Mercury (1), Venus (2), Earth (3), Mars (4), Ceres (5), Jupiter (6), Saturn (7), Uranus (8), and Pluto (9). Neptune (red dot) does not fit the Titius-Bode law. For many years, Neptune was considered the 9th planet and Pluto the 10th. This causes large discrepancies with the Titius-Bode law. Dr Lieder raises her voice when she elaborates:  "In a questionable move, considered by many an attempt to hide the Titius-Bode regularity and to draw away attention from the Neptune irregularity, in September 2006 Pluto got demoted by the IAU to its current status of non-planet. We all know better. It is Neptune, not Pluto, that is a non-planet. As is clear from the figure, with Pluto being labelled the 9th planet, the full power of the Titius-Bode law manifests itself."  

    Triggered by the Titius-Bode irregularity observed for Neptune, Dr Lieder and her team have computed Neptune's future trajectory. What the team feared did come out: Neptune's trajectory, in between the 8th and 9th stable Titius-Bode trajectories, is highly unstable. Nancy Lieder explains the phenomenon using an analogy: "just like a pencil balancing on its tip, Neptune is bound to seek an equilibrium position, and will do so in an abrupt irreversible move. This move has started earlier this year.

    Dr Lieder shows many graphs and diagrams. Her story comes across as most convincing. The conclusion is nothing less than Neptune following a rogue trajectory through the solar system that brings it dangerously close to Earth on 21 December this year. "We wanted to publish this important result, but NASA, IAU and several government agencies that shall go unnamed have exerting enormous pressure on us", Nancy confesses. "Despite this pressure, last week we submitted the manuscript to the planetary science journal Icarus. A few days later we received a response from the editor that our publication was in conflict with their editorial policies that forbid them to publish papers discussing the Titius-Bode law." Nancy hesitates before she continues: "this is very weird, we suspect the CIA to have pressured the Icarus editors into this reaction". She looks at me and continues "our only hope now is to get our story out on the internet. We can't keep silent. There is 7 billion people completely unaware of the danger looming!" I nod and don't waste any words: "consider it done". 



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    How to order your own escape unit


    The safest place to hide for a tsunami is far away from the coast where the sea is deep. This is known since the early days of Japanese fishery, many centuries back. Deep at sea tsunamis are long wavelength phenomena that literally go unnoticed. No earlier than upon the return into their harbors did Japanese fishermen notice the devastation that happened in their absence.

    Given the nine months notification, there is plenty of time to hide for the impending global tsunami. Those who own a sea worthy vessel just need to stock up food and water for several weeks and leave the harbor well in advance of December 21st. Those who don't poses a ship that can roam the oceans can preorder here a Joint Escape Sea Unit System II. These transparent spherical units are designed to survive tsunamis.They allow the user to walk over water out into the open sea, and to walk back to shore when the tsunami is over. Thanks to their unique closed construction and graphene-reinforced materials used, these spheres can withstand water pressures that can be expected to occur when inadvertently the sphere gets too close to shore and temporarily is covered in wall of water. One unit can accommodate a single person of up to 210 lbs. 


    The smaller prototype (Joint Escape Sea Unit - System I) being tested. The System II is larger and capable of accommodating adults of up to 210 lbs, and is also pressure rated at 25 psi. The watertight yet transparent construction allows the user to observe Nibiru approaching and retracting, and to base the return to coast on this information.
     

    Order info: you can preorder you own unit(s) from this site. Just put your full name, city where you live, plus the number of units you want to order (you will need one unit for each of your family members) in a comment below. Provided the total order reaches 10,000 units, the price per unit will be US$ 2,012 only. There is no need to transfer any money at this stage and you can cancel your preorder at any time prior to shipment. We have an option to acquire a total of 15,000 units (the number of readers of this blog) and will use the number of reactions to commit ourselves to an order total at or below this number. Those who have put down their names here will be first in line (based on a first-come-first-served principle) to receive a unit. 

    PREORDERING WILL CLOSE SUNDAY APRIL 1, 23:59 EST.
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    Comments

    UvaE
    Astronomers also refer to Pluto as a WIMP : a Wandering Impostor&Massive Planetoid... :).. I had no idea that Sitchin, who dreamed up of Nibiru, sold millions of copies of his book which was translated into 25 languages.


    I read somewhere that Dr Lieder predicted this would take place in November 2003 and as far as I can tell, it didn't.

    You are correct... she also killed her pets and said suggested on the radio that other people do so as well and that they make a good survival meal. I am a scientist and the claims on this site are criminal. Scientists have debunked this garbage time and time again, but they have products to sell you. People need to do their own research and I don't mean watching videos and conspiracy theory sites. There is a process peopel don't understand called "peer review" in whcih other scientists evaluate the writings of others to hold them accountable. These are the papers people need to read.

    Gerhard Adam
    I am a scientist and the claims on this site are criminal.
    OK ... settle down.  If you're a scientist, then what does your research tell you about the date of this article?
    Mundus vult decipi
    I certainly appreciate your concern that perhaps I am emotional and need to "settle down." Perhaps rather than being an intelligent parasite praying upon the naive for monitory gain you actually believe that the sources that have "researched" represent the views of scientific community. I don’t know. Either way, the content of this article is fraudulent and should be revised. The conclusions you have asserted would be ripped to shreds in peer review. The consensus of the peer reviewed community of scientists is that nothing is going to happen on Dec 21st 2012. Do not speak for the science community to peddle products. If you want to put your "opinion" out there fine. Speak for yourself. The more people belie this article, the more money the product you have listed will make. I have no interest in discussing any of your "research." You are clearly biased, and in science that makes you worthless to talk to. I wouldn’t talk to a used car salesman about epistemology.

    Gerhard Adam
    OK, now you're just getting rude, so let me spell it out in case you haven't figured it out.  Perhaps in your part of the world this doesn't happen, but the article is dated April 1st.

    In the U.S. that's April Fool's Day.  It's a time for making jokes and fooling people and that's what this article is about.  If you looked at the acronym for the water bubble, you'd have seen what that spelled, as well as most of the other "data" in this article, it is clear that it is simply made up.

    So, if you are actually a scientist, you'd better learn to not take yourself too seriously, because if you can't spot a hoax this obvious, there's no telling what other mythologies you'll miss in your studies.

    Example:
    (Joint Escape Sea Unit - System I) ==>  Acronym spells JESUS ==>  "walking on water"? 
    get the hint?

    It might be disrespectful but it isn't deceptive and it certainly is not science.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hah. I totally missed that it was April Fools. Honestly though, this fits right into all the misinformation that is out there. If this were real my comments would have been justified. Its good satire and you got me but there is no reason to be self-righteous about it. I take doomsdays misinformation seriously because a lot of people kill themselves over the dear of them. That is why I am passionate about trying to combat lies. I consider it a responsibility. If you fault me for that and wish to try and chastise me further feel free.

    Gerhard Adam
    There's no need to chastise.  However, it does serve to illustrate [I apologize that you are now the "victim" of this example] precisely how people can read something and see only what they expect instead of what's actually there.

    More to the point, despite numerous comments that indicate that it is a joke and an April Fool's post, apparently that was also missed.

    The proposed ideas and data are so patently absurd, that they should also have offered an indication that something was amiss.

    This isn't intended to pick on you, but since you brought it up, it exemplifies exactly how "uncritical" most people's thinking actually is.
    I take doomsdays misinformation seriously because a lot of people kill themselves over the dear of them. That is why I am passionate about trying to combat lies. I consider it a responsibility.
    I wouldn't fault you for that.  Admittedly, I simply can't muster up much effort for that objective.  When I encounter it I also react, but I'm simply not as concerned about the actions people take regarding such misinformation.

    I can certainly appreciate how significant such might be for actual family members, but even then I can only conclude that I cannot, nor am I in a position to live other people's lives for them.  If their thinking is so defective that I have to engage in it on their behalf, then they are already lost.

    After all, we're not talking about simple misunderstandings.  We're talking about people making radical choices in their lives including death.  Such thinking is so seriously defective, I can't imagine that any information can penetrate such a fuzzy mindset.

    People have access to plenty of sources of information and education.  If most expended a fraction of the energy on real knowledge instead of crackpot ideas and fantasies, they'd be better off.  Unfortunately, that's not going to happen, so I also don't worry about it [or them].

    That may sound callous, but that's my view.  So, I certainly wouldn't criticize you for wishing to do more.

    Mundus vult decipi
    I appriciate your points but I disagree, and think it is important to disagree with you on this.

    It is very easy to be disconnected from normal people when you look at the world through a lens of critical thinking. Not all people are capable of critical thinking and will never be for one reason or another. It is illogical to expect the level of critical thinking and education we would like them to have. The young, elderly, mentally ill, or those denied a proper education because of socio-economic factors, denied of a nibble brain or who suffer traumatic brain injury, may fall prey to such things. I don't consider them at fualt.

    Not long ago I encountered the post saying

    “I don’t want to die! I’m only 14 years old.”

    His brain will not be finished developing for another ten years.

    If you can relate to their lack of critical thinking it does not remove our professional responsibility in my view. Scientists are supposed to use our creativity and love of learning to explore the unknown and educate society about what we learn. You may disagree what are role is, but that is how I see it ideally.

    The problem is that we use a basically foreign language to do so and don’t much care for following through on making what we learn matter. Unless we are active partners, (I know the misinformation machine is overwhelming) we cannot complain that people don’t understand climate change. The majority of what is not locked away in a paysite database is not exactly good science. It makes sense that they form skewed opinions if the percentage of reports on a subject that they read are slanted in one wonkey direction. Every time an outlier study comes out in the news, while we know to ignore it. If they weigh them equally, which is reasonable from their perspective, they will form unfortunate opinions.

    We make ourselves irrelevant. Reading a scientific paper is very difficult for an otherwise intelligent persons unexposed to the vocabulary. Each discipline even uses the same vocabulary very differently. One must learn to read in each special language. It is pretty understandable that they should gravitate towards the people writing in language we can understand. I understand how you because today the lack of understanding of science knowledge is grim, but it is part of the self-fulfilling prophecy science is guilty of.

    You should know that “fuzzy thinking” and “defective” critical thinking are not always the fault of the person. They can be result of mental health and much of what stands in the way of people getting treatment is stigma against seeking treatment. By suggesting that they are defective people rather than people who have a medical problem needing to be addressed, you contribute to the problem.

    Neurology also tells us a lot about how the brain can mislead people into seeing patterns in meaningless noise. Our brains are not set up for logic as Neil Degrasse Tyson often says, if we were naturally inclined for logic, math would be our first language. We are about one percent genetically different from chimps. We can’t ignore biology and forget we are animals, some of which figure out how to bungle our way through the process of discovery. We can’t ignore the science we rely on and blame victims as if they live in a biological, cultural and social vacuum.

    Thats my take.

    Gerhard Adam
    Not all people are capable of critical thinking and will never be for one reason or another. It is illogical to expect the level of critical thinking and education we would like them to have.
    It's not a requirement that people have any level of critical thinking.  However, it is a requirement that they avoid simply being gullible.

    The young have their parents or other adults, while the elderly also have means by which they can confirm information.  If they are so easily lead astray by something like Niburu, then how can they possibly handle their basic household responsibilities or finances?

    Adulthood comes with a certain level of responsibility, and it is wrong to treat others as victims.  They must take responsibility for their own choices and actions.  It would be different if they were being deprived, but invariably this is due to their own choices.

    The mentally deficient are a different category, but in those cases, unless you're equipped to professionally deal with those problems, your intervention with some scientific data isn't likely to make much difference.

    The problem I see with your assessment is that it presumes that people may have difficulty in becoming informed, such as reading scientific papers or achieving some level of competence in a subject.  That isn't necessary.  It is only necessary that they not be so gullible as to believe every piece of silliness that is presented to them.  A bit of skepticism goes a long way.

    More importantly, I can only marvel at the level of mental defect that must exist for someone to contemplate suicide over information that they've only heard second-hand.  While you may well be correct that there is something medically wrong there, it is also well outside the purview of a science blog to correct such obvious mental problems.

    So, what remains are those people that are simply gullible.  Your anecdote about the 14 year old, seems strange, because it would seem that the most logical thing to do would be to ask the parents or teachers about it.  Why a 14 year old would be fearful is beyond my understanding.

    We do no favors when we coddle and victimize these people by presuming that we can think and act on their behalf. 
    We can’t ignore the science we rely on and blame victims as if they live in a biological, cultural and social vacuum.
    Actually we can.  It's called "natural selection".  However, I beg to differ with your conclusions.  The reality is that the biggest bulk of humanity has spent the major part of its existence as uneducated and illiterate.  Yet, they would not believe half the nonsense that supposedly educated people believe today.  Usually the more outlandish beliefs occurred because of their connection to the church or their religion, but practical "real world" knowledge helped most people not be gullible.  Even throughout history, people have recognized that there is a special place in society for "the fool".

    Again, if people are that susceptible to misinformation over something like Niburu, then I don't see how one can make an argument that they are even competent to live in our society without help.  Niburu is fundamentally harmless compared to all those that would take advantage of someone that can be so readily fooled.

    No, I think people are to readily coddled.  Mistakes are too readily forgiven, and we live in perpetual fear of offending someone's sensibilities or beliefs.  However, we fail to realize that beliefs without consequences simply promotes greater and greater absurdities.  As a result we find people believing in things like the "rapture" despite it having been made up in the 19th century [i.e. no biblical support].  We find people embracing the notion of little cherubic angels, despite no biblical evidence that angels were anything except powerful warriors.  People carry their pet beliefs about being able to talk to the dead or commune with aliens, all because we're too afraid to call them out for their silly ideas.

    Information always has the potential for being wrong or misleading, without it being intentional.  A individual that is incapable of differentiating such information is already doomed to be taken advantage of at every turn.  So, in the end, it is their responsible, whether they are ready for it or not.  Whether there is a reason why they may find it difficult.  That's really too bad.  Life isn't about making everything equal.  You work with what you have, and if you lack these fundamental skills, then you'd better find an alternative method of dealing with these events.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Citing Darwin (or rather spencer in this unfortunate use) is a hollow way to avoid responsibility for children, the elderly, people with developmental disabilities and mental disorders. We not only have responsibility as scientists to educate the public, we have a responsibility as people. These people are venerable to being taken advantage of and you continue to blame the victim. You did not address these people in any depth. Our society has empathy for those who are mentally handicapped, but none for those who have low or average IQs (on a side note, the educated don’t breed at the same rate as the illiterate masses so demographically your argument of natural selection is illogical). You once again have ignored culture. A cultural species cannot be so easily simplified. Reductionism will not fly with me.

    My older brother was mentally handicapped and while I saved up my money to go to school (I am the first in my family to go to college) I worked with people with developmental disabilities and traumatic brain injury. We dealt with those who were just leaving mental institutions so they had dual diagnosis. My best friend growing up was also the son of an ultra-right wing evangelical pastor. I do not presume to know you past, but if you were to come from poverty like myself, and worked in the trenches helping people less fortunate than myself, I cannot imagine you being able to make such arguments. Judging people based upon their ability to agree with your worldview ignores the variables of cultural upbringing, aptitude, educational access and mental health. I have spent my life trying to understand how people evaluate information sources.

    It is the lowest common denominator that you have concluded and one that conveniently removes you from any responsibility or connectivity to the society that you are part of. That is impossibility. Regardless of if you acknowledge it, you do not live in a vacuum. Your sense of moral superiority and pride in callousness seems to suggest you insulate yourself from people unlike yourself. Lack of empathy does not demonstrate intelligence. You call yourself a skeptic, but you are a cynic. You evaded the heart of my argument and instead focused on demonstrating how incapable you are of understanding people.

    You argued as though being mental incompetent is a moral failing that justifies not protecting them. What justifies
    existence? Is it intelligence? Things do not need to be equal and in my opening statement I said that such an expectation would be illogical.

    “Adulthood comes with a certain level of responsibility, and it is wrong to treat others as victims. Adulthood comes with a certain level of responsibility, and it is wrong to treat others as victims.”

    Where does this value of yours come from? You say it is wrong to treat others as victims? There are victims of these
    sorts of scams, otherwise there would not be such a large market of exploitation of venerable populations. If you really consider it wrong to acknowledge that people who are victimized exist, and move to do something about it I am wrong, so be it. I respectful think you a moral coward hiding behind empty arguments (of course you may just be trying to win an argument and actually have a something beating in your chest).

    I am still a little confused on your logical train of thought about their ability to maintain their finances. Of you are
    connecting that to protecting them from being scammed it is a rather underwhelming argument.

    Bottom line: People are not having trouble becoming informed. It is what is informing them. There just happens to be a lot of competition in forming their worldviews and we do little to help them understand which sources to trust. They do not understand how to evaluate sources and it is this kind of public outreach that if sustain may make a huge difference. Public outreach (and changing out egocentric elitist attitudes) will help to change our image and raise the level of priority our culture places upon science education and funding. It will also make it more likely our judgment will be respected and advice followed. We can either learn to communicate our results on a less esoteric level and make what we do meaningful to the masses of we will remain a club of like-minded people increasing understanding of the universe to impress each other. We will continue to complain about how silly they all are for clinging to religion and distrusting crusty, unapproachable, unintelligible ivory tower dwellers. If not, we will continue to become marginalized, and defunded. I the age of the internet this could happen faster than you would think.

    You are right on one thing… it is possible to ignore science and pretend people live in a biological, cultural and social
    vacuum.

    It just makes you ignorant and helps others remains so.

    I expect that your pride is too strong to allow you to reevaluate your opinion and so you will instead craft a very witty rebuttal. I do not doubt your education. You are obviously a very intelligent person, who is blessed with a gift of intelligence and education. If you were to use your mental capacity to help to change the tide of misinformation you would certainly be effective. Even if you need to try and prove your metal on this public forum, I hope that you will in private meditate on what I have said. I for one choose to acknowledge that:
    (1) The fate of science is dependent on how our society values us.
    (2) Our society values us based upon our cultural interactions with them weighted against anti-science cultural forces.
    (3) Scientist must take responsibility for maintaining a climate in which to operate because nobody else likely will.
    (4) Scientists are the gatekeepers of cutting edge knowledge and as such should take this social responsibility seriously.
    (5) If society fails to critically think, we own part of that failure.
    (6) If we do not take this responsibility seriously, we will not be valued, and will become marginalized.

    Have a nice day.

    Gerhard Adam
    You're doing the same thing that caused you to miss that this was an April Fools joke.  You're only seeing what you are already biased to see.

    This is exactly what I said:
    "The mentally deficient are a different category, but in those cases, unless you're equipped to professionally deal with those problems, your intervention with some scientific data isn't likely to make much difference."
    Argue all you like, but if you have someone that is in this category, you're tilting at windmills if you think that the comments on a science blog are going to make that much of a difference.

    My callousness and indifference is directly aimed at people that are NOT mentally deficient.  Is that superior?  I don't believe it is.  I believe that it is wrong to label others as victims for simply making choices we disagree with. 

    If you read my post, I was quite clear that gullibility is NOT a mental defect.  It is intellectual laziness and I don't feel I have any responsibility, morally or personally, in shoring up someone that is simply too lazy to use the brain they have.
    Mundus vult decipi
    And you say I am only seeing what I am biased to see? I actually choked on my water laughing when I read that. Now that I have dried off my keyboard I will continue.

    Once again I am underwhelmed by how narrowly you focus and miss the big picture.
    Yes I didn’t notice it was an April fool’s joke. It was because I only read the first paragraph saying scientists admitted Niburu was going to cause tsunamis. I scrolled down and saw a product being pushed. I was almost late for a potluck, and sent a quick comment of disgust. Let it go. I normally would have read the whole thing except that it was so poorly written and felt like drivel I gave it little consideration. You keep suggesting that this is proof of some kind of inability for me to think critically. I found the first paragraph to be so full of BS that I just went straight to addressing the first paragraph as wrongly asserting science consensus and the peddling of a product. I had no intention of spending time reading what was obiously not science.

    We are both in agreement that the mentally deficient should get a pass…I just think that those who are not, like you and should not get a pass for intellectual laziness. You may call my mistake in noticing that the article was flawed on purpose intellectual laziness. That’s fine. You however have decided to blind yourself to any cause and effect relationship with your culture and denied yourself any social responsibility Thats pretty profound lazziness. You wouldn’t touch that in your response because there is no way to separate yourself from the world you live in. We exist in an infinitely complex world and our actions have real world consequences if you want to accept that responsibility or not.

    You may argue that you don't have a reponsibility for the public. They don’t give you public funds to enrich your mind for your personal amusement. We are public servants and as long as their tax dollars pay for our research, we should be taking an active role in advocating for science education. Gullibility will always exist. You don’t have to solve the problem to justify ameliorating it. Your lack of patience or understanding for people is rather depressing if you are an educated man.

    If this article was written to make a point about the danger of believing pseudoscience than what purpose does it serve other than to educate? If you don’t think that is our responsibility was this article just for amusement? You are preaching to the choir and celebrating your separation with normal people when you should be out engaging them.
    I came from the gutter, so I have respect for people outside of privilege. It is intellectually lazy to simplify the people who are “gullible." It is reductionist and you know it. I am speaking about the complexity of the issue while you keep trying to simplify it.

    It is clear you see only what you want to see that which allows you to continue living free of any responsibility. You say I only see what I want to see. I am talking about working harder and holding ourselves accountable, while you are basically advocating for us doing what takes te least effort and makes the problem of misinformation the same or worse. I guess according to you, I really want to believe that I need to do what I can to help people while I practice my profession and that others should too. I want to have this extra responsibility so bad that I believe myself into seeking out opportunities to teach people about science. What an idiot I am for thinking scientists should teach science? How foolish to belive members of societies are connected and have responsibilites based on their role in it!

    Who is being intellectually lazy? I who is charging myself and others with more work and responsibility, or you who wants to refuse any societal obligation and responsibility and live in a bubble, like the fictional product in your article.
    What a waste of an education you are. You will argue with people your whole life, die, and then be nothing more than citations in dusty tomes that none but other isolated erudites read.

    People teaching science= more people who understand science.

    Sciencist not teaching science = less people who undersand science.

    Is that formula too dificult for you?

    I don’t care if you think my empathy makes me less intelligent than you. You are wrong, but too foolish to admitt it. You are no more than a petty, heartless coward. If I prevent the suicide of any person, regardless of your opinion of their value, I will be tens times the man you are.

    I intend to make a difference both in my field and in the real world.

    Gerhard Adam
    Sorry, but you seem to be cherry-picking the events here.
    I found the first paragraph to be so full of BS that I just went straight to addressing the first paragraph as wrongly asserting science consensus and the peddling of a product.
    Exactly right.  I found a few dozen references to April Fools within the comments, but you blew right by that.  Basically you did exactly what you claim you're trying to help people achieve.

    The point is critical thinking, and yet you failed at the most cursory level.  I'm sorry if you think I'm being nit-picky because it really wasn't my intent to dwell on that aspect of things, but it illustrates the very problem you claim you're trying to solve.

    This isn't about educating people.  In that situation, clearly there is much that can be done and it invariably is.  However, I am not in the business of "saving" people from themselves, and I am not inclined to be concerned with people that wish to argue.

    Also, this isn't about having some arbitrary responsibility for people.  I don't evangelize science.  If people wish to believe foolishness, it isn't my responsibility to martyr myself so that I can "save" them from themselves.  If they waste thousands of dollars on charlatans, then perhaps they'll learn their lesson at some point, but I certainly won 't spend hours and hours preaching to them to change their ways.
    I don’t care if you think my empathy makes me less intelligent than you.
    See, the problem I  have with that statement is that you seem to feel threatened by my viewpoint.  I haven't accused you or anyone else of being less intelligent.  I've simply stated that I don't feel responsible for people that are gullible.

    I also don't think that you're less intelligent because you were fooled by an April Fools joke.  That's fine, and even the best people can be sucked into such things.  The problem is that you insisted on fighting before you knew what the fight was about [remember it was after I told you to settle down and check the date that you still failed to follow up].  You then want to turn this April Fool's blog into a moral lesson about people with mental issues [which are clearly outside our domain to help]. 

    Then you behave defensively about your viewpoint, despite my never having insulted you nor ridiculed you for having the views you have.  I think I was quite clear that I simply disagreed but certainly didn't insult you over it.

    So, what exactly are you aiming at?
    Mundus vult decipi
    What am I aiming at? I was hopin gto discuss ideas but you reamin focused on the same distraction.

    You are still insisting that I have critical thinking problems instead of actually addressing your connectivity to the social climate and the role of science. It is obvious we are not just taking about this April fools joke. Can you focus? You are still miles away talking about my first post rather than addressing my arguments. It is pointless to debate with you if you ignore the central ideas.

    I do not feel threatened by your view point. I just find it to reflect your character and find it lacking. Your views are myopic and self-serving.

    We will just have to agree to disagree.

    You can think that I am threatened by your lack of humanity and that you have no responsibility to battle misinformation and I can continue think that we don’t live in an alternate universe where scientists aren’t connected to the level of science literacy in society.

    Gerhard Adam
    You can think that I am threatened by your lack of humanity and that you have no responsibility to battle misinformation...
    OK great ... perhaps it makes you feel better to attack me personally.

    In any case, I have a very specific reason for feeling the way I do and how I expect responsibility to be distributed amongst people.

    I don't believe that I can single-handedly take responsibility for battling misinformation.  How utterly presumptuous to think that you know enough to designate such a task for yourself.
    It is obvious we are not just taking about this April fools joke. Can you focus?
    Yes ... I can.  Here's a reality check.

    You claim that you wish to battle misinformation.  Reality ...

    You couldn't identify it even after I indicated for you to check the date.

    That's reality.  Now tell me how you're going to take on the responsibility for critical thinking.

    You still think that I'm just picking on you.  You're simply the object lesson here in the futility of taking on such responsibility.  It doesn't matter that you were fooled.  It only matters that you've taken on a task that you can't possibly take responsibility for.  You're no more infallible than anyone else, so who are you to declare that others need help?

    OK ... so you're pissed off.  It changes nothing, because you've designated yourself as the savior of others.  Good luck. 

    I don't know where you get the idea that I'm promoting misinformation.  I also work towards correcting misconceptions, educating individuals, etc.  However, I don't presume to protect others from their own beliefs.  I can make suggestions.  I can argue.  I can even tell them I think they're wrong.  At the end of the day, the choice is theirs and I move on.  I don't presume to make it my "responsibility" to fix their lives.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Gerhard Adam
    Your lack of patience or understanding for people is rather depressing if you are an educated man.
    OK ... I've decided to let you have your chance.  Show your mettle.

    There's a poster you'll see listed down at the bottom of the comments.  Screen name = Enoch.

    Do your stuff.  Let's see how you handle this.

    I am willing to be proven wrong on this.  Demonstrate what you would do that is different from what I've done.  Personally I'm a bit skeptical, since you barely have the patience to converse with me ... but ... we'll see.
    Mundus vult decipi
    I'm not playing your game. What have you done for me latley? You entirely ignored what I said. I had very simple questions for you and you ignored them as you did with every previous post.

    I have nothing more to say to you unless you actually answer those questions. I have nothing to prove to you.

    HOLY BIBLE = Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth :)

    I couldn't agree more with the assessment that what is stated on here is COMPLETE nonsense. In fact, December of this year will come, and then pass as uneventfully as it came. And the people who believe this garbage and bought those stupid floatation devices will be left wondering why they spent $$$ on something so ridiculous. But as is normally the case, the creators of this bs information (great scientists that base theories on just about nothing( will simply make some claim that their calculations were off and that the actual cataclysmic event will take place at a future date, and sure enough enough dumbnuts will yet again be convinced. When December 21st comes and goes, I hope that some semi-intelligent individuals will trade in their sea units, or whatever the hell you call it for a brain transplant. On the bright side I am willing to buy a unit or two off of any of you for $5. I have to admit it looks like a lot of fun though! :)

    Gerhard Adam
    OK, I give up!!!

    Are you all idiots, that you can't spot an April Fool's joke when you see it?

    It's only posted as the date, and referenced about a dozen times in the comments.

    How stupid do people have to be to run their mouths before they do the most basic checking.  Spare me your indignation about the "people who believe this garbage" and those "great scientists" you're so quick to criticize.

    The problem here is YOU! 
    Mundus vult decipi
    hahaha it's 2,012 dollars

    April 1st,troll!

    What a redundant post. You decried my personal attacks and then went straight back to the April fools day joke and yes, once again restated a position rather than confronting my ideas. Have you ever considered becoming a TV pundit or a politician? You can say nothing like nobody’s business. I would be glad to write you a letter of recommendation for a press secretary position. Well I too am guilty of antagonizing you (See the above). We can call it even.

    I did not say you are promoting misinformation. I skimmed your other articles and they have substance and combat misconceptions, so it is perplexing that you see my assertion that education the public is our responsibility. That’s what you do right? You wrote on race and I am in complete agreement with your view. Can you imagine if the public were made to understand what you have to say on race? That would revolutionize the way our culture understands the world if the case could be made to them in an effective way. You neuter yourself by denying the responsibility to be relevant. We are on the same team, but you just don’t agree that we should be going out of our way to talk with the little people.

    I cannot fix the world and neither can you. It is illogical to use the argument that you shouldn’t make an effort of some level to educate people because you can’t physically talk to all 311 million Americans. That is like saying that it is futile to understand all of science therefore why try to understand at all.
    You don’t have to fix their lives. I am not suggesting you save the world. By being a public intellectual you give people tools and inspire them to challenge old assumptions. There are some excellent pop science authors out there that are doing a great job of helping the public grasp ideas. These ideas seem cutting edge to them but we had consensus on them for decades for decades. If scientists all did a little bit than it would make a big difference. None of us have to be the “savior” of these people. We should just do what we can.

    In addition to publications I make documentaries. That’s not being a savior, but they reach a TV audience. It’s practical. Most documentaries are horribly made and muddle science. I’m trying to find ways to communicate complex ideas in a pithy way that is entertaining and accurate. That may not be you bag. You write these articles so wither you like it or not you are to some degree doing what I am saying you should. You could argue that you are doing your part and I wouldn’t completely disagree.
    I
    know that talking with laymen is often boring. It’s like the same conversation over and over again. They ask the same
    questions. It doesn’t take any skin off my back though. Patience is a virtue.

    Can you really argue that scientists taking responsibility for public knowledge is an unreasonable expectation?
    I can’t make you care, but can you at least concede that more scientists teaching science would result in more people understanding science? It is pointless to split hairs about who is disabled, gullible, or worthy of our time. If the means of educating the public in general is the same as educating gullible people, we can just educate the public and science literacy will rise. This empowers people and lets them protect themselves from scams and self-destructive behavior. I see this as part ofthe social contract of the scientist and society. We are funded by their taxes generally. I don't want to give back my NSF grant. If you can’t concede the point that scientists are responsible for educating society about science than we have nothing more to talk about.

    Otherwise we might as well play sedoku instead of building knowledge.

    Gerhard Adam
    I tend to agree with many of your points regarding education, but I don't believe that's ever been the point of the debate.  As you've already seen, there are many articles that I've written that do attempt to teach or present views on topics precisely with that aim.

    However, I also noted later that you made a comment to Helen which simply attacks me again as being some sort of "meany" that simply takes advantage of other people's gullibility.  Yet, if you actually read the posts on this article alone, you would find that I am one of the individuals that consistently points out when individual's are taking the article too seriously and indicate that it is an April Fool's joke.

    You might have a point if I were going out of my way to perpetuate the story, or even arguing what I know to be false information.  However you won't observe such behavior from me.

    My point remains ... if people are so readily fooled by something that is intended as a joke, then there is little more that I can do, than I have done which is to simply point it out.  It accomplishes nothing to delete this post, because people will then get their information from other places where this is NOT treated as a joke.

    Yes, it's a shame that so many people are so readily fooled, but what would you have us do if we removed this article?  Does that teach anything?  Does that help anyone understand, or does it simply give in to the foolishness and eliminate a source that might just help them see how crazy the whole idea is?

    My cynicism stems from the fact that despite all the posting on this blog and others, there are always numerous others that are interested in perpetuating the nonsense.  I don't think you'll find that I've ever advanced those ideas, nor supported them.  In fact, it's ironic that you made the comments you did on Helen's comment, because Helen has been specifically chastised [and she is upset with me over it] because she also tended to promote pseudo-science and promote fears by her open speculations about topics that she was pursuing.

    I do what I can, but I don't have a responsibility to help people that aren't also willing to help themselves.  I'm not an evangelist.
    Mundus vult decipi
    I find it telling that my consistent main point in the debate is not what you considered central to the debate. It was all I talked about, so apparently you were having a parallel debate that had nothing to do with what I had said. I was saying nothing about taking down the page. You seem to have interpreted my defending myself for your beating me over the head with not immediately noticing that this page was a joke. You have been spending the entire time defending yourself against my defending myself from your attack.

    Early on I said that I feel it is our responsibility to do what I am doing in trying to educate people.
    You disagreed. I elaborated on why I disagreed with your view on the role of the scientist in education of people who may be misinformed. I have been centered on that the entire time, and you have been centered on redundantly using my initial mistake against me and arguing that you have no responsibility and denied to talk about connectivity to a wider system of social actions and reactions.

    How can you have exchange this many posts, and think that the point is that you shouldn’t take it down and that what you are doing here is good. I stopped saying anything about that after I realized it was a joke. After I noticed Helens thread and all the other posts, I was impressed with her argument, and agree with her. That was a separate conversation apart from the arguments I have been making.
    I
    f you feel hurt that I gave Helen kudos for kicking your ass, I’m sorry. I suppose I’m a “meany.”
    If you really think the debate we were having was still about this article you probably didn’t even read my posts. Isn’t this what you have been beating me over the head for? Making a conclusion after a skim?
    There is no point in debating with you as you are simply another person who refuses to take responsibility. It took an incredible amount of posts for you to touch slightly upon what I have been focusing on this entire time.

    “... if people are so readily fooled by something that is intended as a joke, then there is little more that I can do, than I have done which is to simply point it out. It accomplishes nothing to delete this post, because people will then get their information from other places where this is NOT treated as a joke.”

    This is what you think the debate is about? Is it really just this surface level single assumption dependent assertion?
    I never once told you to delete the post. If more scientists were educating the public they will not always receive information from another website with identical content that is not a joke. This is a logical fallacy. Your assumption is painfully reductionist. Profoundly so! Do you even understand the concept of confounding variables? They may instead receive science education. People aren’t necessarily reducible to “stupid” if they have opinions we think classify them as gullible. They just don’t know what information sources to trust. If they were given the tools to do so, than they can immediately tune out Pseudoscience like I did when I read this article. Your assumptions are elitist and ignore countless social variables on why people might believe something and assume that education is pointless.
    You argument implies that science education in our culture cannot change the minds of people who come to conclusions that science does not support. That is a delusional position. If I were to buy that I would be quite gullible. Is this a hill you really willing to die on? If it is true all us scientists might as well just go hang ourselves by our ties.
    You are still refusing to acknowledge the role of the scientist in society and how that affects the information climate in which people try to make sense of the world they are in. You favor a simplistic two variable model that falls apart under the most basic consideration of the system it is a part of.

    You also tried to tell me to prove my metal by talking to a single delusional evangelical. A sample size of one? So some anecdotal evidence will change your mind? Did you miss a lot of class in your freshmen level courses? If he had his mind changed it would mean nothing, and he was a sample selected for because of prior knowledge inserting bias from the start.

    Helen correctly asserted that those who comment represent only a few of those who looked at this article. My bringing up the volume of people you have as you said “constantly” telling people that it is an April fools joke, is in defense of your constantly brining up how silly I was for making what is obviously a mistake that many others made. It too is a small sample size, but considering how many hits your article has it at least gives an indication that a fair amount of people made the same error.
    I
    don’t care if you keep your article up or not, but I think you are too blinded with pride to acknowledge that what you do has a cause and effect relationship with the world. We can’t begin to have a conversation of any real depth until you acknowledge the complexity of what you are trying to simplify. This is like arguing with a creationist who refuses to accept geological time, or uniformitarianism. Get your mind out of the vaccum!

    Gerhard Adam
    For someone who thinks they're responsible for providing useful information, you are incredibly argumentative and I fail to see how you've done anything to live up to the standard you set for yourself.

    However, let's review how much time you spent in providing "useful" information to protect those that scientists are supposed to guide.  From your initial posts:
    I am a scientist and the claims on this site are criminal. Scientists have debunked this garbage time and time again, but they have products to sell you. People need to do their own research and I don't mean watching videos and conspiracy theory sites.

    These are the papers people need to read.

    Either way, the content of this article is fraudulent and should be revised.

    If you want to put your "opinion" out there fine. Speak for yourself. The more people belie this article, the more money the product you have listed will make. I have no interest in discussing any of your "research." You are clearly biased, and in science that makes you worthless to talk to. I wouldn’t talk to a used car salesman about epistemology.
    In short, you didn't utter one word refuting what was in the article.  You didn't provide a bit of information to help those that might misconstrue or be misinformed.  You simply pursued your own agenda and became argumentative.

    In fact, the most telling part of it, is that if you truly felt such a responsibility to what you perceived was my irresponsible posting, then wasn't it incumbent on you to educate me, instead of chastising me? 

    In short, it seems that you've missed the point all round.  If you bother to read my posts on this web-site, as well as my comments, I can clearly demonstrate that I've done far more to help educate people and try to keep them informed about what I consider to be more valid information than you have done here. 

    Instead you've demonstrated that you have no patience and are just as self-centered and argumentative as the very people you accuse.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Predictably you have gone straight to my first posts once again!

    Your assertion that by my saying that the claims of the site were not supported by science that I was not living up to my educational goals is logically flawed. As far as I knew I was talking to a con artist, not a person who was in need of epistemology lessons.

    I already told you that I was on my way to a potluck and had determined that it was pseudoscience after the first
    paragraph. I didn’t read it because my BS filter went off before I hit the clues you put in. You keep returning to this same line of argument because you cannot refute my arguments.
    Instead you accuse me of not specifically refuting parts of the argument to cover that you are unable to refute my arguments.

    Your assertion that you can demonstrate that you can demonstrate that you have do more to fight pseudoscience at the same time as saying earlier that you don’t have any drive to do so and don’t consider it your responsibility is mind numbing.

    You call me self-centered for telling you to stop being self-centered and consider your role an responsibility as a
    scientist. You also made fun of me for trying to be their “savior.”

    Choose one! Are you once who goes out of your way to teach science to the uninformed or are you someone who doesn’t think you should be going out of your way to educate uniformed people. You can’t argue both sides of the fence dear.

    You say I have missed point yet you won’t even touch my arguments. That’s a great defense! Don’t actually participate in the debate of ideas. Just make a general statement that sounds nice.

    You said what you thought the point was and I copied it into the post and refuted all of the arguments. you made no response to my arguments about your thesis. Don't pretend that I did not address the point when I hit it directly. That is idotic.

    Go back and read my posts and then we can talk… What I have been saying is very strait forward. Until you can demonstrate that you comprehend what I have been arguing and make some kind of contribution that is not a derivative garble of all your previous posts don’t waste my time.

    Gerhard Adam
    Your post speaks for itself regarding how you intend to fight against misinformation, how you intend to inform others that have incorrect views, and how you view your personal responsibility in such matters.
    As far as I knew I was talking to a con artist
    I give up.  Even after all this time you don't get it.  Did you check on the credentials of the author?  Why are you assuming I'm the author?  What don't you get about "critical thinking"?  After all these posts, you still haven't even established who you're talking to or what you're talking about.  You're just a loose cannon.  You run your mouth with incomplete information, simply assuming that YOU know best.  Even after you've been called on it, you still don't feel compelled to gather more data.  Find out more about your position, you still argue from ignorance.  YOU are the problem!

    BTW ... consider yourself lucky, because I'm willing to engage with you despite the fact that you're simply an anonymous poster on the internet.  You claim to be a scientist, but for all I know you're the con artist, so spare me the sanctimonious crap about your position.  I'm the only one being open about engaging in this discussion, so while you can hide behind your anonymity, you haven't done a thing to advance your so-called responsibility in this discussion.  Feel free to solicit other people's opinions from this site. 

    You have demonstrated that you have no patience, you have no argument, and you prefer to look out for your own interests instead of addressing the issues.

    I find your attitude to be patronizing of others, and out of line.  Apparently you think that I'm "ok" so you can insult and argue, whereas if I were one of the "little people" then you'd take my hand and show me the error of my ways?  Please ... that sounds pretty young [or at least naive] and that you have a fair amount to learn about how the world works.

    Go ahead ... take your self-proclaimed "responsibility" and give it try.  After the thousandth time of being told you're arrogant and a "know-it-all" you'll see exactly how well your "responsibility" is lauded for all the help and insight it provides. 

    So be it.   Have a great day.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Oh, I’m lucky to have you grace me with debate? You are a classic narcissist.
    Right back to the same line of attack on my first post! Unbelievable!

    I demonstrated in my post that I have addressed what you called the point. You have not made a rebuttal of those arguments. Nor have you addressed any of my principle arguments.

    Unless you offer substantive debate there is nothing to do but trade barbs. You sit and accuse me of precisely what you are doing. You addressed nothing from my last email.

    Put up or shut up.

    ADDRESS THE REBUTAL TO YOUR ARUEMENT. MAKE A REBUTAL TO MY IDEAS AS I DID FOR YOUR THESIS!

    Show your cards.

    Gerhard Adam
    Show your cards.
    LOL ... Now THAT's funny coming from an anonymous poster. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    Since you won't put up it is time for you to shut up...but you won’t because you can’t admit checkmate. Go ahead and have your last word you coward. Say something that sounds witty for your benefit if you becuase I won't read it.

    Gerhard Adam
    Whatever makes you feel better.  You've made my case for me.  You're no better than that pathetic fool "enoch".
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    In prior years, I was the only one doing this stuff.  In case I have not done my weekly homage to all of you for making this such a fun place, thank you once again.
    in Romania before 1989 "mysterious incidents" there were 2(two) "revues" only in science and electronics,each 24 pages long,they appeared MONTHLY. 4 pages dedicated to ceaushescu.but always on april was a "little" elaborated "april fool's day".go figure how bad it was.in the "electronics" revue was a guy, seriously screwed in the head,he liked to draaaaaaaaaw electronic schematics in an artistic(autistic)way....

    well,in 1986 in the "science" revue was an article about aharonov-bohn with tonomura's result: http://images.iop.org/objects/asia/news/1/9/5/tono2.jpg .haha,at least that was before copyright in romania.

    9X JESUS-II. Delivery to Wasilla pls.

    There is more scientific info on my blog for your consideration :-)

    I am Nancy Lieder and you are totally misquoting me! How dare you! And to sell some stupid bubble device which certainly will NOT work against the Pole Shift tides and winds. Death device, why don't you call it. Nibiru is not Neptune.

    In follow up to above message, my client Nancy Lieder has discussed the case with me, Shawn Holley, partner at Kinsella Weitzman Iser Kump & Aldisert LLP. We order you, Johannes Koelman, and the owner(s) of the site "Science20.com" to take the following action no later than 18:00 hrs EST, today April 1:

    1) remove above weblog posting which misquotes my client in a dramatic way

    2) post a sincere apology to my client, which shall including a link to her website. This apology should stay on the scince20.com main page for at least 3 (three) months

     

    Sometimes I just hope that people have a sense of humor... Then again, your post just may be the bit of satire that I have have yet to wrap my head around. This is what makes April Fools awesome!

    You were a quack in 1995 when you claimed to be the "Zeta's " "Chosen One", in 1997 when you claimed global distruction was related to Hale-Bopp, and you are a quack now

    yes this is a big laugh the zsunami from a 5000 mile
    poleshift in a sec will be 4 mile high . whole countries
    will vanish ..so ppl just get out where the water is deep maybe
    maybe your lucky and die quicker lmfao

    Gerhard Adam
    There would be a special place in hell for idiots like you.

    Apparently, it isn't enough to be stupid.  You think it's funny to fantasize about other people's  misery?  You truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    there will be a special place in hell for your kind as well, bud

    Gerhard Adam
    My kind?  ... and who rattled your cage?
    Mundus vult decipi
    This is what the Nibiru faithful are all about...daydreaming about all the people who dared to challenge them dying in agony. And they're willing to die along side of us just for that brief pleasure. In other words they're miserable losers.

    Nancy, I thought the pole shift was going to happen in May 2003...what happened? Did the Zeta's lie to you!?! What would posess them to do such a dastardly thing? I see you're angry that you're not getting a cut from the bubble device.....

    Well, dunno about the rest.. but yeah.. NIBIRU IS NOT NEPTUNE..!!

    Hi Nancy,

    I would like to know exactly what you believe Nibiru to be?
    Are you claiming scientific facts for it's existence or something else?
    It is quite an quite interesting topic and some people are claiming you claimed that aliens implanted a chip
    in your head or something to that effect could you please confirm this if correct or disclaim it for me?
    What is your take on why Nibiru is not yet visible and I would like a comment on your view on all the you tube
    uploads that claim to show the planet approaching. When does everything happen and why does this planet defy
    Kepler's 3 laws but still exists on its extraordinary orbit?

    There is much reference to you and Sitchin on Nibiru and I wanted the story straight from the hoses mouth if possible.

    Kindly

    Gerhard Adam
    It is quite an quite interesting topic...
    It is not an interesting topic, it is bullshit.  If you want to chat Nancy up, go to her website.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Nancy's so dense she doesn't even recognize the most blatantly obvious joke in the entire article. It's like calling a 14 year old kid a "bottomless pit" and them shouting back seriously and angrily: "I AM NOT A BOTTOMLESS PIT!"

    So anyway, Nancy, how are ya'? Kill any puppies or tell any "white lies" lately? You chubby idiot scumbag.

    are you really nancy? if so can you please call me? I need your help I have info you really need. 9403375415

    Oh lol how smart of you to leave your phone number so anybody can track you down, oh yes real smart... u deserve a cookie

    Ya, this artie does misquote Nancy. And wtf? Tell me you are kidding selling big bubbles for 2,012 and convincing people to walk out in the middle of the ocean In them? Haha! How do you breath for "several weeks" or even several minutes in a waterproof element proof plastic bubble that costa 2012? Haha! I was enjoying this article until you tried to sell me a nibiru proof water toy haha!

    Gerhard Adam
    Does no one look at the date?
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Does no one look at the date? 
    Most kids know that anyone who plays an April fools day joke after midday on April the 1st is the real fool! How much evidence of this do you need Gerhard? Many people SKIM READ this article and its comments and then go away confused or misled. This April Fool's day article is simply feeding the fire of the Nibiru myth, do you really think that most people check to see the date an article was published? Anyway, as you well know, for months the article post date for the bulk of its readers was March 31st, until you or Hank eventually changed it to say April 1st!
    My latest forum article 'Australian Researchers Discover Potential Blue Green Algae Cause & Treatment of Motor Neuron Disease (MND)&(ALS)' Parkinsons's and Alzheimer's can be found at http://www.science20.com/forums/medicine
    I f you are Nancy Lieder then youa re a nut job...

    well presented article with conclusions, some historical reference to Sumerians would have been useful as well

    I would like to order two of these units please, one for any doctor of crapology stupid enough to believe your send up and one for any lawyer dumb enough to take him/her on as a client, please make sure you punch some ventilation holes in them to make sure the sods don't suffocate to death while they walk the thousands of kilometers to the middle of the ocean; and don't let the fact that the holes might let some water in and drown them worry yah, all in good fun.

    It's a good one, I must admit, well done :-)

    I understand this is an April Fools joke but in all honesty I can't believe you would post such disgraceful information while people all over the world are going through such difficult times and searching for answers and guidance with what's happening. The well established truth re: Planet X can only be found at www.zetatalk.com or www.poleshift.ning
    I think you owe Nancy Lieder and the public an apology.

    Haha, Nancy Lieder is a joke.

    Info on the Nancy Lieder hoax. http://www.2012hoax.org/nancy-lieder

    We should all learn to be very careful with Nancy, if her claims about her being in contact with the Zetas are true then they might get upset with anyone who criticizes her .... One can imagine a zillion zetas leaving their Mexican slums and coming at us with their AK 47s ... terrible people them zetas .....har har har har har :-)

    Just a question .. Considering that the brain works at the speed of light (electrical signals) then if Zeta Reticulini is 39 light-years from here , how long would it take a mental message from them to get into Nancys head, pop a vein and then get some semblance of a reply out her back to them? Wouldn't that be (thinking, thinking) 78 years per message and reply and how many messages has she had and ...... ?

    Right oh, I'll just get me coat now and leave now :-)

    Zetatalk.com and its social network poleshift.ning are not the only opinions in town. Come see where their banned members landed for simply asking questions and what free inquiry has discovered about the Zetatalk message at earthchanges.ning.com. Check the Zetatalk tab at the top.

    For sale, radiation groin protectors made out of Kangaroo testicular skin, very tough, order now, 1 per person

    Gerhard Adam
    I repeat: NIBIRU AND EARTH WON'T COLLIDE. 
    Yeah, right ... so what are you trying to hide?
    Mundus vult decipi
    My thoughts exactly. I betthese scientist rats will leave spaceship earth in their nuclear rockets when are tryin to stay afloat in these plastic balls.

    Is there any chance -- any chance at all -- that I could get a special order made? If it is possible, I desperately need to order one of your Joint Escape Sea Units with a superluminal tachyon transducer nozzle attachment. Cost is no object.

    The Russian National News Service has started broadcasting televised reports (see YouTube) about the upcoming (12-21-2012) Nibiru pass thus negating the US's governmental suppression of scientific information through mainstream media outlets and NASA's modifications of interplanetary images (i.e. Google Sky, etc.) such to exclude ALL traces of Nibiru's trajectory and current position. I feel that everyone NEEDS to be informed about the impending global/astronomic phenomenon so they can prepare!

    Hank
    Well, if a Russian video on youtube says it is so, it must be so.
    Gerhard Adam
    I think its pretty funny.  Although it's a bit extreme to make a good movie.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Pluto not being a planet and the existence of Nibiru--both BS.

    Both are Basic Science? You mean Pluto is Nibiru? And heading to earth? OMG!! Will the JESU-Sii escape units that I ordered still work?

    Johannes should have included stills from "Melancholia" here... :)

    Good joke for 1-st of April

    Have a look at the article in Discover magazine this month about nibiru.

    I PRE ORDERED ONE OF NANCY SUIT PROJECT II, IT WORK VERY GOOD AND YOU CQN BREAT THRO HOLES THAT INSIDE OUTSIDE LAYER AND THEN YOU PROTECT FAMILY

    Something to do with April the first perhaps ?

    Ha ha. Nice April fools joke. Nancy Leider is not a NASA scientist, but someone who claims to channel messages from the Pleiades.

    OH GOD I LIVE BY THE SEA, OMGOMGOMGOMG I DON'T HAVE MONEY OH GODDD IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF

    The 27 th July 2012 ,DOOMSDAY.

    This must be a joke right? In scientific circles a WIMP is one of the particles assumed to be dark matter - weakly interacting massive particles. Ceres has never been considered an official planet and Pluto has certainly never been considered the 10th! There is potential evidence for a tenth planet, but that's only inferred by neptunes irregular orbit. Remove Ceres from the Titius-Bode graph and you have the solar planets as they should be. You added in Ceres as a planet so that you could slot Neptune in between Pluto and Uranus, reove Ceres and you have?.. Oh just the solar system as it actually is. This is a load of tosh. Scaremonger all you like, 21st december will come and pass, the UK will still be in a recession and there will be another prediction of cataclysm 10 year hence. There is no evidence that Neptune is getting closer to Earth, hmm but I suppose that's because the reptillians are in control and goldman sachs is jiggling their ballbag. Nancy Leider is in no position to discuss scientific matters when she is open to ridicule herself, she is the human antennae for messages from another planet.. Yea.. Just as preposterous as the nonsensical notion that Neptune is actually coming to Earth. No astronomer in the last few centuries has noted any increase in size or described an irregularity in Neptune's luminescence. It should be bloody bright and having increasingly short orbits around the sun. Which it does not. Because it is not coming to Earth.

    Gerhard Adam
    Settle down.  Check the date of the post, keeping in mind some time zone differences as for when it would post. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    Jake, you frighten the hell out of me!!
    I understand that Neptune doesn't fit the Titius-Bode law, and will be ejected out of orbit soon. I think in my escape unit I can handle one stray planet.
    But now you are telling me that Ceres doesn't belong in there? Take Ceres out, and Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus will no longer to fit into TB. So all three will be ejected! These are giant planets much larger than Neptune!! The chaos will be beyond description. The tsunamis will be at least ten times as high! Should I upgrade my escape unit??? Please clarify!!! Jake, you Doomsday profet! I hope you are not poking fun at innocent people!!!!!!

    Ok, I'm not sure if you're joking cause I missed the whole April fool thing, but if you're for real, you need to re-read a few space books! There is no larger-than-Neptune gas giant called Ceres in our solar system. Go to NASA.com you can look at pictures of the planets, Ceres is a dwarf planet it's the largest asteroid in the band of asteroids that orbit the sun between mars and Jupiter. Ceres's impact gravitationally on the latter three gas giants in the solar system will be about the equivalence of a newt farting at you from 50 feet. You wouldn't even smell it, so don't you worry, remove Ceres the law is intact, we only know of 8 official planets in our solar system, Pluto has been declassified to dwarf planet also. Anyway don't upgrade anything is my point the article is a total farce!

    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    I think that this article should now be altered to give some indication that it is an April Fool's day joke either in the heading or in the first paragraph. It is seriously upsetting and misleading some people especially as the post date is March 31st and not even April 1st! Come on guys, this is irresponsible, you've had your fun now do the decent thing.
    My latest forum article 'Australian Researchers Discover Potential Blue Green Algae Cause & Treatment of Motor Neuron Disease (MND)&(ALS)' Parkinsons's and Alzheimer's can be found at http://www.science20.com/forums/medicine
    Gerhard Adam
    Come on guys, this is irresponsible ...
    Anyone dumb enough to believe it, deserves to float around in their Joint Escape Sea Unit - System II (or JESUS II for short).   Then again, what else do they have to spend $ 2012 on?
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Gerhard, in case you didn't realise, the average IQ in the world is 100. That means that approximately 50% of the world's population have IQs of between 50 and 99 and probably even more than that percentage probably do not have access to secondary education.

    Daily, many thousands of these lower IQ and lowly educated people are being sucked into the 21st century's technology arena and are even getting home computers and/or Internet access. When depressed, lonely, mentally or physically disabled people call our crisis line, I usually encourage them to use the Internet as a useful tool to educate themselves, follow or create new interests and hobbies and to come into contact with other people out there but with an irresponsible and even possibly vindictive, science outreach site like this one, advising on unscientifically proven, painless suicide methods and impending doom, usually at the top of many Google searches maybe I shouldn't?

    What I don't understand is how you have changed so much over the last year from a tirelessly, kind and patient teacher and debater of most outreach science issues to the person you have now become, who thinks that disadvantaged, disabled  'dumb' people should suffer for being dumb!
    My latest forum article 'Australian Researchers Discover Potential Blue Green Algae Cause & Treatment of Motor Neuron Disease (MND)&(ALS)' Parkinsons's and Alzheimer's can be found at http://www.science20.com/forums/medicine
    Gerhard Adam
    What I don't understand is how you have changed so much over the last year from a tirelessly, kind and patient teacher and debater of most outreach science issues to the person you have now become, who thinks that disadvantaged, disabled  'dumb' people should suffer for being dumb!
    Perhaps part of it is that I've gotten tired of these "dumb" people coming on here spouting their nonsense, without regard for being educated and then taking their time to call me the idiot or moron.  [BTW, if you don't believe me, read the last post I put on the "Science Behind Heartbreak" to a 14 year old girl.  I ended up deleting her response, because her point was that I was a MORON, and a FUCKING IDIOT].  I don't need the grief.

    Even in religious circles, God doesn't put up with that crap, since he "helps those that help themselves".  So if someone can't even avail themselves of some of the basics and ask questions, then I don't need to engage with people that only want to peddle agendas and argue foolishness.

    If I've "become" anything, it is that I'm tired of talking to walls.

    I can already tell you what would happen if we deleted this post or even if we emphasized that it's an April Fool's Joke.  These same "dumb" people will be posted here a few months from now, talking about the Mayan doomsday, or there will be some other comet, or there will be some other catastrophe brewing, or some government conspiracy.  In the end, there's no shortage to the idiocy that people will believe, and there isn't a thing anyone can do to stop it. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Perhaps part of it is that I've gotten tired of these "dumb" people coming on here spouting their nonsense, without regard for being educated and then taking their time to call me the idiot or moron.  [BTW, if you don't believe me, read the last post I put on the "Science Behind Heartbreak" to a 14 year old girl.  I ended up deleting her response, because her point was that I was a MORON, and a FUCKING IDIOT].  I don't need the grief.
    The thing is though Gerhard, as Hank often points out to us, thousands of people read these articles and only a very small percentage actually make any comments. You are directing all your chagrin towards the small percentage that make stupid comments but the blogs are misleading and confusing a much larger percentage of genuinely 'dumb' people.
    Even in religious circles, God doesn't put up with that crap, since he "helps those that help themselves".  So if someone can't even avail themselves of some of the basics and ask questions, then I don't need to engage with people that only want to peddle agendas and argue foolishness. If I've "become" anything, it is that I'm tired of talking to walls.
    Depends which God and which religious circles you're talking about? There are so many gods and so many religious circles but as far as I can see the one thing that they all seem to have in common is that they punish and ridicule anyone who doesn't agree with them just like you are and then normally socially exclude them regardless of whether they are trying to help themselves or not.
    I can already tell you what would happen if we deleted this post or even if we emphasized that it's an April Fool's Joke.  These same "dumb" people will be posted here a few months from now, talking about the Mayan doomsday, or there will be some other comet, or there will be some other catastrophe brewing, or some government conspiracy. 
    Like I said, the few that comment are the tip of the iceberg, many thousands of other 'dumb' people just go away even more confused. You should be so happy that you're not dumb, that you're so very intelligent, articulate and educated. By losing your temper, in my opinion you are just letting down the side when for so long you were the captain that everyone looked up to.

    Also you are being very brave setting yourself up as a self-appointed agony uncle on the very inappropriately named 'Science of Heartbreak' blog when you presumably have no training as a counselor or as a therapist. Repeatedly telling heartbroken, depressed and often suicidal people just to pull themselves together and stop being so selfish and stupid is actually the least scientifically proven effective approach you could be taking. It could backfire on you one day when someone can't pull themselves together, kills themselves and blames you.
    In the end, there's no shortage to the idiocy that people will believe, and there isn't a thing anyone can do to stop it.
    Yes there is, you can keep educating them and explaining scientific concepts and facts and you can stop feeding the fire with stupid April Fool's day articles fooling people weeks after the event. I remember when I was a kid in England playing April fools day jokes on everyone we possibly could, it was always made clear to us that anyone who played such a joke after midday was the real April fool.
    My latest forum article 'Australian Researchers Discover Potential Blue Green Algae Cause & Treatment of Motor Neuron Disease (MND)&(ALS)' Parkinsons's and Alzheimer's can be found at http://www.science20.com/forums/medicine
    Well said on this thread,
    Gerhard has a very unfortunate cynicism. It's really is quite dangerous to use such an approach with depressed individuals as you noted. He seems to lack some very basic empathy.

    The first paragraph of this article is also misleading. I read just the first paragraph and scrolled down to see a product being sold and assumed it was just another pseudoscience article. There is enough pseudoscience out there without emulating it. I am a scientist and I fell for it for a moment, so your points are very valid. He has been beating me over the head with it suggesting that I lack critical thinking skills rather than debate ideas.

    Considering you had already raised well-argued concerns about the article, it is rather amusing that my falling for it proves your point. Now he is using what proves your point to argue the opposite. If a professional researcher was initially fooled the average person has a good change of reading the first paragraph getting bored and then believing scientists believe in Niburu. Many people just read headlines and skim the beginning.

    There are quite a few comments from people taking it seriously, and those represent only a small percentage of a large amount of people who went away not realizing it was meant as a joke. He seems quite content at ignoring your reasoned arguments and all of the evidence from the posts. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had narcissistic personality disorder. Debating him is like boxing a glacier. It is pointless. Even so well done.

    Hoax or not, that Escape Unit looks fun as hell.

    You burst my bubble and any credibility when you tried to sell me a plastic body-bag.

    NIBIRU IS BEHIND THE SUN TODAY,BUT IN JULY IT WILL BE OUR NEIGHBOUR AND DOOMSDAY WILL BE THE 27-28 TH JULY 2012.

    Gerhard Adam
    Could you be a bit more specific, because I had plans for the 27th and if the world's going to end the following day that I may not need to book a return flight.  Let me know.
    Mundus vult decipi
    YEEhaw! I/m maxing out my credit cards!It's July 22,I got me some PARTEEHING to do! WooHOO!Very funny post I might add,great picture of the personal device.

    GERHARD,

    IT´S NOT A JOKE.

    THE 27 TH JULY , AT NIGHT , WILL BEGIN THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT.

    IF YOU WILL TRAVEL THIS DAY ,PERFECT.

    I DON´T KNOW IF THE END IS IN ONLY ONE DAY.

    PERHAPS , IT WILL BE IN 3-4 DAYS OR IN A WEEK .

    THE 31TH AUGUST 2012 NOBODY WILL SURVIVE,ONLY THE SONS OF GOD WHO WILL BE RAPTURED IN THE LAST MOMENT .

    IT´S VERY SERIOUS,GERHARD.

    YOU CAN LAUGH BUT YOU MUSTN´T.

    JESUS IS THE LORD,JESUS IS THE WAY.

    SAVE YOU GERHARD,YOU CAN IF YOU REALLY WANT.

    TURN INTO JESUS,HE´S WONDERFUL.

    there's a button between shift and tab called caps Lock.. you may want to press it

    Gerhard Adam
    I rest my case.  It didn't even take a few months.
    Mundus vult decipi
    MikeCrow
    You brute, lol

    You and your hat living the thug life!
    Never is a long time.
    Everything is matching with what Allah and His Prophet had said thousands of years ago... And sure astronomy was not soo advanced at that time... No other religion has anything written about it... And so surely there is only one creator who knows all- Allah... Why do people still deny Him???

    GOD IS ONLY ONE.

    ALLAH= GOD=YAWEH.

    HE IS THE ONE,THE ONLY ONE.

    EARTH IS ONLY ONE PLANET.

    ALL THE PEOPLE ARE BROTHERS WITH ONLY ONE FATHER.

    COUNTRIES,BORDERS,RELIGIONS WERE AN INVENTION TO CONTROL ALL THE PEOPLE.

    Hey people,

    I'm a great beliver in the event's that will take place near the end of this year. Will it hit us or not???? If it does hit us, we can all forget about it anyway, as we would all be wiped out, everything will. But if it doesn't hit us then we have a problem becouse of the G pull. Alot of you my find this funny or a joke. From my point of view everyone need's to get a grip and wake up. You may not believe it now but what are you gonna do when in 4 to 5 months ( maybe longer ) you can see this planet heading for us !!!!! Take on bored what these people are saying, as all they are trying to do is give us a heads up.

    Gerhard Adam
    Sure .... like THEY know anything.  What possible difference do you think it would make?  Do you think that if you knew the planet was heading towards us, then you could do something about it?  Is it more interesting to spread unwarranted fear and concern to those that are gullible enough to believe this rubbish?

    Here's a reality check.  Neither you nor any of the other believers know anything about what's "coming" or what's happening.  It's just the same old doomsday crap that surfaces every few months, so spare us all the rhetoric and warnings. 

    The trouble is that for all the warnings you and these other believers have, the truth is that when Dec 22, 2012 comes around, you'll all be silent.  Not one of you will have the guts to go on the internet and admit that you were wrong and that you didn't know what you were talking about.  Instead you'll simply keep your head down until the next doomsday prophecy comes up and then you'll tell everyone how this time it's for real.
    Mundus vult decipi
    People are searching for truth. To bad they are all looking in the wrong place. Lots wife turned to a pillar of salt because of her love for sodom. People want to save themselves but cant. Our only hope is Jesus.

    many people, if not everyone in the world should focus on self-enlightenment in this time of theoretical cataclysm. Where all things come to an end in our minds, it only projects our own fear and in turn shows us resolution in the time needed. It is not but recently in our time of ages that we have begun to fear our own mortality; A paradise which exists in our beliefs can never be easily shaken. A tale of unfortunate conclusions can only lead to a better beginning if we go about it the right way.

    Nibiru will pass near the Earth.

    It´s a flyby ,not a crash.

    The problem is the BIG MAGNETISM of Nibiru and the direction of the flyby:when Nibiru will pass near us( from SUN TO LEO ) THE EARTH WILL GO FROM LEO TO SUN.

    IT WILL CHANGE OUR ROTATION :NOW IS FROM WEST TO EAST AND THEN IT WILL BE FROM EAST TO WEST.

    NOBODY WILL SURVIVE THE FLYBY OF NIBIRU.

    ONLY THE SONS OF GOD WHO WIIL BE RAPTURED IN THE LAST MOMENT(31 TH JULY 2012).

    THE 21 -22 TH DECEMBER IS A LIE,THE EVENT WILL BE BETWEEN 27 TH AND 31 TH JULY 2012.

    YOU CAN LAUGH.

    WHEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES OF LONDON WILL BEGIN,THE CHAOS WILL BEGIN.

    Gerhard Adam
    OK.  You can spout off, but I expect to see your sorry ass on this site on August 1st, apologizing to everyone for being an idiot.

    Perhaps I could interest you in rapture insurance?
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    Your comment won't have the necessary gravitas unless YOU WRITE IT IN ALL CAPS.
    Gerhard Adam
    Well, perhaps we can at least look forward to fewer of these nutcases posting on the site after July 31st?  One can hope I guess.
    Mundus vult decipi
    MikeCrow
    YOU CAN LAUGH.

    Okay!
    Never is a long time.
    How come there are so many religious opinions about a subject that was basically outlawed and put to death by nearly all religions , that is science?, arnt you offending your gods by even discussing this topic ?

    Hank
    Without religion, there would be no science.  The image of the atheist scientist is a modern one (and they are still a minority) and religion kept science alive during the Dark Ages.
    how do you feel now, u piece of shit? stupid fucktard. go back to school

    Laugh all you want:

    -First ,the eclipse ,20 -21th May 2012.

    -Then,the transit of Venus,5-6 th Juny 2012.

    -And,finally,the chaos,27-28th July 2012.

    You can read Nostradamus and you can see the pictures of Parravicini.

    The people who will survive the event, will wish the death.

    The 1st Agust 2012 your ass will be burned.

    Gerhard Adam
    Then you should have no problem in promising to be here on Aug 1st and apologizing to everyone?  As I said, I expect your sorry ass to have simply crawled back into its hole and will have all kinds of excuses as to why something didn't happen.  People like you never learn.

    You don't even have the nerve to publish as anything other than an anonymous user.  I guess it's easier that way, so you don't have to be held accountable for the garbage you write.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Nostradamus made predictions up to the late 3000's so if he predicted the end of the world why bother with any more predictions past 2012? Maybe if I yell hard enough you will believe me. SEEK THERAPY.

    No problem,Gerhard.

    My warming is only for the sons of God,not for you (YOU´RE TOO CLEVER........).

    God doesn´t want people TOO CLEVER like you........

    He prefers a stupid man like me.............

    Good luck to everybody.

    Gerhard Adam
    God doesn´t want people TOO CLEVER like you........
    What a shame, after having gone to all the trouble of creating me.

    In any case, you haven't provided anything to make yourself appear more open nor honest, so perhaps the question shouldn't be whether you are a "stupid man", but rather whether you're an honest one.
    Mundus vult decipi
    The Iluminati are happy.

    They´re waiting, after the eclipse,20th May 2012 and the transit of Venus 5-6 th Juny 2012,to go to their bunkers.

    They know we´re going to die and they want to eat our meat after we die.

    Wake up,poor people:the rich want to eat you when you die.

    Gerhard Adam
    Wake up,poor people:the rich want to eat you when you die.
    Why would you care after you're dead?

    I have to admit, that's a new one to me, so now you're trying to create some paranoid reaction around post-apocalyptic cannibalism?
    Mundus vult decipi
    So without all the bullshit what would be the most accepted apocalyptic theory?

    The Iluminati are followers of Lucifer and Lucifer have made a promise:

    -they will eat all human meat they want after the flyby of Nibiru.

    The only thing they need to do is to wait into their bunkers the flyby of Nibiru.

    Then,they will eat all human meat they want.

    Gerhard Adam
    You need some serious help.
    Mundus vult decipi
    But God is the biggest and every iluminati will die into his bunker-tomb.

    The sons of God will be saved,DON´T WORRY.

    Lucifer is the king of liars and he has lied to his followers,the iluminati.

    If it was an April Fool's, why was it posted the afternoon before? Kinda defeats the point of an April Fool's joke if it isn't on the given day, right? I mean, even IF it was a joke, posting it the day before no longer makes it an April Fool's joke x.x Now, I don't know about some wandering planet makes things happen (though, it holds some logic seeing the amount of chaos the world is in right now), or some egotistical god(s) that says "worship me or burn" (Which is a highly depressing thought, no offense to anyone or their beliefs, I just find most gods of modern worship as cruel, calculating, neglectful and high self-oriented. Though, don't let that fool you into thinking I don't believe in a divine, original source.) Still, reguardless of all which it is. The point is, something IS happening to this planet! Something that is throwing it into complete and utter chaos. Now, I can't say for sure what it is, but I can say that. We all better get ready..

    Gerhard Adam
    You clearly have no idea what the word "chaos" means.  There are time differences for posters around the world, so I'm not sure specifically what time this was posted with respect to the server location, but it was definitely an April Fool's Joke.
    ...IF it was a joke, posting it the day before no longer makes it an April Fool's joke...
    Oh yeah, that must make it a fact, unless there's a conspiracy to hide April 1st from everyone.

    Unfortunately, as I also predicted, there are clearly more fools than the month of April can hold.
    Mundus vult decipi
    "If it was an April Fool's, why was it posted the afternoon before?" Maybe, just maybe, the world is larger than North America, and has a few more time zones? Or could it be that it is part of the profecy? For the parts of the world that had dived into 1st of April when this was posted, it is an April fools joke. For the other time zones it is real... You better duck America!

    Gerhard Adam
    Hank changed the date, so that we could avoid the conspiracy arguments about a secret message being sent the day before April 1st.

    Of course, now it will simply foster the argument that we're trying to cover something up. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    Remember the prophecy:27-28 th July 2012,Doomsday.

    I´LL RETURN TO THE ASYLUM.

    Outside,the people are too clever........................

    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Maybe time for some counselling Enoch?
    My latest forum article 'Australian Researchers Discover Potential Blue Green Algae Cause & Treatment of Motor Neuron Disease (MND)&(ALS)' Parkinsons's and Alzheimer's can be found at http://www.science20.com/forums/medicine
    LMAO some reactions are too funny.
    I hope Johannes lets us know how much J.E.S.U.S.II devices where ordered, just for the laugh.
    For all you doomsday thinkers, if anyplanet would make a near miss in december you would be able to see the object yourself by now using a telescope or even by eye.
    But keep it going, it realy amuses me ;-)

    No problem Helen,

    Jesus said me:`` It´s normal,all the people are sleeping.If you say the truth,they laugh´´.

    It´s very funny they believe liars and they don´t believe the truth.

    Maybe in an another world..................

    Helen,

    I have a IQ of 170: MY MARK IN MATHS WAS 20/20 IN HIGH SCHOOL.

    Helen,

    I speak Spanish,French,English and some Italian and some German.

    I studied Latin too..............

    Adiós,amiga.

    Apparently there was zero time left to study astronomy?

    the information here about nibiru is a lie!! neptune was ruled out as the planet nibiru a long time ago. makes you wonder why they feel they have to lie about this!!

    Gerhard Adam
    OK ... for the nitwits in the cheap seats.

    THIS WAS AN APRIL FOOL'S POST!
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    I would just delete the obvious paranoid, conspiratorial kooks.
    Lex Anderson
    By delete, I take you mean the new Joint Escape Unit System III, designed to be less expensive and more environmentally friendly -- while at the same time solving the shortcomings in morbidity rates of previous models.
    Thanks for the advance warning, but these sea balloon won't help. Neptune is currently wandering in the neighborhood of the star Altair. Warming up for the grand sacrifice. Are YOU ready?

    Nibiru is real and it is a real threat to our civilization, it was reported in the early 1980's in the newspapers that a giant body 3 times the size of Jupiter is lurking just outside the Kuiper belt, the government was very quick to step in and pour sand over the existence of Nibiru and since then have regulated and managed information on this planet and has made sure NASA refutes the existence of Nibiru, astronomers like Robert S Harrington have long revealed the existence of Nibiru,In the Bible Isaiah 13:5 talks about this planet which is just outside our solar system, Over the past few years more questions about Nibiru have been asked and too few answers have been given, NASA is very quick to refute matters abouts Nibiru yet they don't give alternative answers

    Question: What is Nibiru?
    Answer: A pseudo-planet suggested by pseudo-scientist Z. Sitchin

    Q: Sitchin decyphered Sumerian texts and artifacts to back his theory up what do you have?
    A: We have the most powerful telescopes to detect bodies 450 light years away, if there was a rogue planet out there we could have detected it.

    Q: In 2011 comet Elenin missed planet earth with a couple of miles, why were the people not notified in time, and why was this comet denied until it became a big threat?
    A: Comet Elenin was never a big threat, there was no need to cause an unnecessary panic, our scientists were studying the comet and there was no need to give out inconclusive information about a comet that is far less a concerning issue

    Q: What is hidden at 13 48 36 -8 36 14 at sky-map.org and google sky?
    A: You must understand that the space map is not in real time, we spend a very long time taking photos and putting them together to map out the sky, the current map that is available on the internet are the photos taken as far back as in 1958, we have nothing to hide and the boxes you see on the internet are just photographic glitches, and sometimes are just areas that we do not have information or photos of

    Q: What about the photos and videos that are circulating in the internet, what about the increased spraying of chem-trails at sunset all over the world?
    A: Do not believe every piece of rubbish you come across in the internet and you-tube, some people are very good at using photo-shop and CGI effects, the heightened spraying of chem-trails has got nothing to do with us, you must remember that the government is a network and what other departments are doing may not be directly affluence by us, they may have their own programs and exercises, but they are not in anyway trying to hide Nibiru or anything like that

    Q: What about the frequent earthquakes and violent Tsunamis, could it not be because of this Nibiru?
    A: Like I said Nibiru does not exist, and we have had earthquakes and Tsunamis in the past and we can not attribute this to anything we don't know already, the tectonic plate may shift slightly to cause earthquake and the may shift in the oceans to cause Tsunamis nothing too dramatic there

    Q: The sun is so excited snapping solar flares now and then and also the moon is acting up what can we attribute this to?
    A: The sun has phases that through, it goes quiet and excited and that is nothing to write about because these events are very often, same as the moon...

    We are always looking for answers

    -This is why science and religion never agree. Where in science, you ask questions, dig deeper into the problems that you do not understand.

    In religion, you follow blind faith, and curse down anyone who does not see your point of view...

    Enouch, why do you need to keep yelling and damning everyone that does not agree with your beliefs?
    Please remember you are on SCIENCE 2.0. This is a place of reason, and logical thinking...

    enouch, I did not believe you... but then you started typing in all caps, which made me start thinking that you may know what your talking about.. :)

    but seriously, you can keep telling people all this garbage (I assume its garbage considering there are no hard facts to anything you are saying), but I feel no one is really listening to you.

    Although I do enjoy reading the comments for this post.. they are rather funny to me.

    MikeCrow
    Well they found the rest of the Mayan Calender, the end is not in 2012 (if you really didn't know that anyhow).
    Never is a long time.
    Haha that's funny. To anyone who's actually interested in finding out what the buzz is all about, this site has some good info on the whole 2012 and Nibiru thing. It basically has Zecharia Sitchin's version of what will happen in 2012 with regards to Nibiru. Sitchin was the author who popularized Nibiru, if you don't know.

    Astronomy is not necessary.

    Jesus said me all I need to know.

    When he´ll return,he´´ll give us all the hightest technology including cellular rejuvenation to can live 1.000 years like Matusalem and Noe.

    so...now that Nibiru (dwarf star) is not coming from afar) you make up stories about Neptune. Come on, this is all a hoax.....wise up boys and girls.

    Gerhard Adam
    I thought the date was self-evident.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Gerhard ,

    WHY DON´T YOU LIKE THE GALACTIC CONFEDERATION OF LIGHT?

    DO YOU PREFER THE ILUMINATI?

    ARE YOU AN ILUMINATI?

    DON´T YOU BELIEVE IN GOD?

    Gerhard Adam
    Yeah, OK.  Very funny, but you do put on a somewhat convincing show.
    Mundus vult decipi
    O MY GOD I am laughing so hard it hurts. All of you are the most gullible sods I have happened upon in a long time.

    ENOCH FOR GALACTIC PRESIDENT ! :D the caps are for that gravitas comment feel

    Enjoyed this thread immensely though thank you

    I enjoyed the article. That said, all of this "the world will end" nonsense is way off base. All sensible people know that when it comes, it with be the Zombie Apocalypse that does us in, not some sudden, one day event (or even a some rogue planet buzzing by and flipping the poles). Prepare people! The end is nigh. And when the Illuminati start munching on YOUR neighbors, just remember that you were warned!

    IS MY WRITING BELIEVABLE THIS WAY? OR AM I E-SCREAMING TOO E-LOUD? lmao ... this is way too funny. I understood the town people from Yucatan when they explained that the calendar was continuous when they 1st discovered it, it was a matter of listening to them instead of fear(like always). As for Nibiru, its sold pretty well hasn't it? And until the days pass w/o anything happening people will keep questioning, selling & manipulating w/ their religious beliefs. "A" true God dose not foresake his creation, not his rightous ones...but neither dose he empower mankind to believe by force. No religion, bible nor church identify "it" only your soul can. Happy very belated April fools to myself. *sigh* That comment about the scientists escaping in their high-tech little rocketships while we're left as shark bait floating in our plastic-balls, ... that got me good, lol.

    LOL, this made my day for a laugh....I plastic breakable bubble will save you?....don't think so bub ;o) it pops and fills w/ water, you drown anyways....just go to higher ground.

    Gerhard Adam
    Don't know if you noticed, but check out the acronym for the bubble, too.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    They named it after my lawn guy!
    Gerhard Adam
    You have a lawn guy?
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    Sure, we have to give illegal aliens something to do.  When I moved to California, the lawn services were all Asian guys but now they are Mexican.  We are told it's because Asians don't want to do lawn jobs any more.

    I'd rather do it myself, obviously, but the boys are not yet old enough to push a lawnmower.  In California, thanks to new laws, my giant 7-year-old has to be in a car seat so I am certain child services would visit if I made them do manual labor.
    You people sicken me! I started reading your site thinking to myself 'well, its scientifically a load of bullshit, but at least they're not conning people out of money', and then I see you're selling 'life-spheres'. I don't know who I feel worse for: you arseholes running this site or the poor idiots stupid enough to buy them!

    I think you may have missed a key element or two in the good Dr's blog, Shaun. I suggest taking it from the top, specifically right under his title.

    Anyway, so far as doomsday pods go: There is this tv show called "Doomsday Preppers" about a company that sells bunkers and what-not to people preparing for the coming wwIII, super-colcanoes, tsunamis, Mayan apocolypse, etc., etc., etc....

    Well this company has, I shit you not, developed a Tsunami Pod:

    Behold! (I caught part of this episode while channel surfing and, if memory serves, the owner put some $80k into the prototype. Apparently this is big business... who knew? Although, bunkers for people in (for example) Tornado Alley make sense they seel all kinds of crazy stuff to even crazier people.

    Of course, that's hardly Johannes fault.

    Isn't Neptune the eighth planet what is with this 8.5 planet junk. This makes no sense???

    Gerhard Adam
    It makes perfectly good sense if you read the date of the article post.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    And so it goes on, 1000's more hits and thousands more readers reading this stupid April fools day article and going away even more confused about this 'science' about Planet Nibiru, from a supposedly respectable science outreach site. 

    OK, at least you have finally changed the article post date from March 31st to April 1st, any chance you could now edit the article to at least imply somewhere within it that it is an April fools day joke? 

    Like I said earlier, all self-respecting jokers know that anyone that plays an April Fool's day joke after midday on April 1st is the real April fool! 

    Again and again it is obvious from the tiny percent of readers who actually do make comments here (according to Hank) that many people are not getting that its an April Fool's day joke. Millions of people in the world are suffering from mental illnesses and you are just feeding the fire. No wonder so many people hate scientists!
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    Gerhard Adam
    There are plenty of comments that clearly indicate it is an April Fool's joke.  If people are not reading what's going on, then that's on them.  If they can take the time to comment, I would hope that they could take enough time to have, at least, skimmed the other comments.

    The problem isn't an April Fool's joke, since there are plenty of those that are on this site, and have been here for years.  The problem is the foolishness of people that insist on believing utter nonsense and then lacking the basic skills to even check out everything on this post.  It's not like they have to research the internet.  Simple reading comprehension would fill in the blanks, but instead they insist on posting comments after only half-reading what's been said.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    There are plenty of comments that clearly indicate it is an April Fool's joke.  If people are not reading what's going on, then that's on them.  If they can take the time to comment, I would hope that they could take enough time to have, at least, skimmed the other comments. 
    You just don't get it do you? For every one person who makes a comment here, there are probably a hundred who just read the article, which managed to completely fool them into believing what was written and then they moved on to another article still believing this rubbish. Hank says that only a small percentage of people make comments and I imagine that probably most people don't even read the comments section, so how are they supposed to know its an April Fool's day joke? You have only recently just changed the article's post date from March 31st to April 1st!!!

    Just because there are a few references to April 1st in the comments section doesn't necessarily impact those poor misguided people at all. Look at it from a scientific perspective if you are unable to use your imagination. Its almost a typical psychology experiment conducted by out of touch, stupid psychologists, except that no one is measuring the effect it is having on these thousands of now scientifically misguided people, who are worrying about the year 2012 and a Planet Nibiru doomsday. 

    There are approximately 7 billion people in the world, over 3 billion people have IQs of less than 100, can you imagine what that must be like for them? They often have poor problem solving skills and tend to believe what they are told by people in positions of authority, like PHD scientists on a science outreach site. Are you ever able to admit when you are wrong Gerhard? I don't think so........
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    Gerhard Adam
    First of all, this is probably one of the least harmful things that people can run into [especially if they have IQ's less than 100].  So, if this is the worst thing that happens in their lives, they can count themselves extremely lucky.  If people are that uneducated, gullible, or just foolish, then they can look to educate themselves, but I don't believe it's the obligation of authors on this site to hold their hands simply because they might misunderstand something or because they might be fooled by a joke. 

    Secondly, I don't buy the argument that soo many  people are soo unintelligent that they are going to be lead astray by what's written here.  Judging from so many of the comments, there is no shortage of people with radical and even crackpot opinions, so it would be pretty hard to claim that they aren't being impacted far more substantially from those quarters [if they're impacted at all].

    Finally, you're overlooking the obvious problem here.  Where would people get such a ridiculous idea that Planet Nibiru and 2012 doomsday scenarios are remotely plausible?  They get those ideas from TV and all the other internet sites that print that stuff as serious information.  So, if they come here and are gullible enough to not do the most cursory investigation, then they are looking to be mislead.

    Ask yourself this question .... why did they come to read this article in the first place?  It certainly makes no sense and it's filled with completely ludicrous statements.  Yet, they still come to read it ... why?   Because they either want to be outraged, or they're looking to confirm a silly belief.

    Both groups are taking themselves way too seriously ...

    I don't believe the people commenting are stupid, nor gullible [for the most part].  They simply got fooled by a joke because they didn't see the date.  No big deal.  I expect that some of them might be a bit embarrassed at having fallen for it, but no harm was done.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    OK if you won't listen to straight forward logical reasoning, explaining that this article is seriously misleading vulnerable people, with its veneer of respectability and its complete lack of honesty, tell me how can you justify playing an April Fool's day joke after April Fool's day? 

    Can you please give me a lengthy explanation as to how this universally accepted rule that April Fool's day jokes should only be played on April 1st, and preferably before midday, is somehow not applicable to Science20? 

    BTW, do you really think that most people can distinguish between the ridiculous ideas in this blog and the seemingly ridiculous ideas in many other equally incredible, genuine scientific blogs by PHDs here, about say 'spooky action at a distance' and 'quantum entanglement' for example?
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    Gerhard Adam
    Truthfully?  Not my problem.  I know of no sites that edit or delete April Fool's posts simply because the date has passed.  As I said, there have been dozens of April Fool's posts that create no problems.  This one is only a problem because of stupidity, nothing more.

    If people want to pursue all this Mayan crap and Nibiru and doomsday, then they deserve whatever they dig up.  They're the ones looking to be upset and to be shocked.  So, you can be assured that if they believe this article, they've already bookmarked half a dozen other sites that say far worse, and they aren't even pretending to joke about it.

    So, no ... I have no sympathy, and it certainly isn't the responsibility of the authors or this site to micromanage someone's stupid beliefs.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    You just don't get it do you? For every one person who makes a comment here, there are probably a hundred who just read the article, which managed to completely fool them into believing what was written and then they moved on to another article still believing this rubbish.
    That's always a concern. This article did not do the world or this site any favors either. Maybe we should change that date on that one as well.
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    That's always a concern. This article did not do the world or this site any favors either. Maybe we should change that date on that one as well. 
    In case you hadn't noticed Hank, this article that you mentioned, that I wrote about the Earth's weakening geomagnetic force and possible polar reversal was based on and asking genuine questions about the real science and knowledge that we currently have about this subject, it was not an April Fool's day prank. You however decided to close the comments section which contained 464 comments, with many still more being added daily, and threatened to delete the blog, yet the same heavy handed censorship does not seem to apply here. Anyway, I'm grateful to you for not deleting it, so maybe I will shut up now, as I've said my piece. I would be a fool to continue.......

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    Gerhard Adam
    I think the point is that in your article there were plenty of doomsday scenarios that related to the extinction of life, HAARP, and the LHC.  These were all unscientifically speculated about without regard for whether people would take the comments seriously or not.

    In fact, the point is even more pronounced, because this article is clearly an April Fool's joke, even if some people missed that.  Your article was being treated seriously all round, even when it made statements and assertions that had no scientific basis in fact. 

    While I know you insist you were only asking questions, I told you then and I'll tell you again.  You do not write articles and then ask questions in those articles expecting others to answer.  Regardless of your qualifications, the author is presumed to be the one with the information, so you set yourself up as an "authority" whether you like it or not.  As a result, it was incumbent on you to bring in the expertise or support for the comments.  It was not appropriate to wait for others to comment in the hopes that they would reassure you [especially since you didn't really want reassurance].  You chose to argue with every comment that disagreed with your claims, so you did much to foster the same time of "concerns" that you're accusing this article of.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    I think the point is that in your article there were plenty of doomsday scenarios that related to the extinction of life, HAARP, and the LHC.  These were all unscientifically speculated about without regard for whether people would take the comments seriously or not.
    Gerhard, I appreciate your constructive criticisms and I like to think that I have a learnt a lot from you over the years here at Science20 and that my comments and articles have improved from a scientific perspective as a result, since I wrote that older article. However, I do think you are being a bit unfair here and exaggerating by saying that there were plenty of doomsday scenarios in my article related to the extinction of life, I also would like to point out that I never even mentioned HAARP in the article. 

    I reported on other people's hypotheses and articles about the weakening geomagnetic force and possible polar reversal that I had found and I showed that there is still no expert consensus on these subjects. I made the mistake of adding my own hypothesis about the known missing energy from thousands of global nuclear reactors and particle colliders possibly affecting the Earth's geomagnetic force. I regret this now as I am not an expert with any experimental research data, so I was not qualified to speculate or publish that hypothesis in the article itself. I did however make it very clear that I was a laywoman who had only done limited research on the Internet and as you know I tried to remove it but it caused confusion, so I put it back in brackets and italicised, with a clear explanation and disclaimer, unlike this April Fool's day article.
    Your article was being treated seriously all round, even when it made statements and assertions that had no scientific basis in fact.  
    What statements and assertions did I make in the article that had no scientific basis in fact? I'm not aware of any. I may have made some statements and assertions in the comments section that had no scientific basis in fact but I also made it clear that there were no scientific facts and data and that I was also just asking questions.
    Regardless of your qualifications, the author is presumed to be the one with the information, so you set yourself up as an "authority" whether you like it or not.  As a result, it was incumbent on you to bring in the expertise or support for the comments. 
    I would estimate that over 50% of the articles written here at Science20, have been written by people who are not experts or setting themselves up as authorities on the subject that they are writing about. News staff for example write a high percentage of the articles here, in which it is obvious that they are not experts or authorities on many of the topics and they also never answer questions from people in the comments section. 

    Who here at Science20 is an expert or authority on pink slime, methane hydrate, dinosaur farts, restaurant food, GMOs, bacteria, the origin of life, decapitating animals, peaceful painless suicide, chimp behaviour, foot fetishes, biochar, black holes, time travel, climate change, spooky action at a distance, sexy jerks, heartbreak etc, the list is endless? If only experts or people with 'authority' who are prepared to answer questions from people in the comments section could write the articles here, then there would be a lot less Science20 articles and a lot less Science20 contributors. 
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    Gerhard Adam
    Sorry, but the problem isn't just what you said or wrote about.  The problem is the comments it encouraged and that also added to the problem, so even if you didn't specifically say anything about HAARP, there were plenty of comments that took off on that topic, all by themselves.

    They were NOT deleted, nor were they even argued against, so it created the impression that you agreed [which in some cases you did].

    I didn't say that everyone is an expert, I said that as an author you essentially take on that responsibility, so when you ask questions in your article, then you are making a statement.  When you speculate in your article, you are making a statement.  Now commenters are certainly free to argue with you, which is what we did.  Similarly, commenters are free to argue or make comments on this blog, which is what they are doing.

    The only difference is that you are advancing an argument that somehow, this particular April Fool's blog should be subject to a different criteria because some hapless fool may mistakenly order a JESUS II unit and think he needs to save his family because of the Mayan calendar.

    I fail to see why this blog should be held to a different standard than dozens of other speculative comments or articles.  At least this post is a joke and the fools won't be taken advantage of.  This one isn't, and I would love to get follow-up data to see how well its working.

    You should also note that in every case where someone appears to have taken it seriously, there were comments either pointing out the April Fool's nature of the post, or arguing against their assertions.  The only time that stopped was when it was clear that some posters were simply whackos.  There's simply no help for them.
    Mundus vult decipi
    I too believe that the world will end but why so early. many scientists say that it will last much longer. Are they lying to us or are they trying to make us unaware of whats going to happen so that there is not global panic and riots breaking out that they would have to deal with.

    Hank
    There are no scientists saying the world is ending soon.  Twice a year some crackpot claims the world will end, sure, and eventually, 5 billions years from now, one of them is sure to be right.  But I wouldn't stop making my car payment if I were you.
    Anyone think of tithe air supply in the sea unit thingy?????

    Gerhard Adam
    Just drill a few holes.  That should work.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Gerhard, I was amazed to read an article today by Ian O'Neill in Discovery News called 'IS 'PLANET X 2.0' LURKING BEYOND PLUTO'S ORBIT?' that says :-
    Before the doomsayers hijacked "Planet X" and used it as a phantom (a.k.a. "Nibiru") to scare people into believing the 2012 doomsday hype, the hunt for Planet X was an exciting astronomical quest to find a hypothetical world in the outermost reaches of the solar system in the early 20th century.
    Although dwarf planet Pluto was discovered during the search for Planet X in 1930, apparently ending the quest, there is enduring evidence for the existence of a substantial planet gravitationally shaping the population of minor bodies in the Kuiper belt and beyond. The only problem is, we can't see it.
    Earlier this month, at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Timberline Lodge, Ore., Rodney Gomes, an astronomer from the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, announced the results of his simulation of a region beyond Pluto known as the "scattered disk," suggesting the presence of an as yet to be discovered massive world. 

    Oh dear, it looks as though you and Hank might be going to be even more busy now having to post comments here, pointing out to these people that this Nibiru article really is an April Fool's day hoax! 




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    Gerhard Adam
    Why would you think that?
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Oh dear, it looks as though you and Hank might be going to be even more busy now having to post comments here, pointing out to these people that this Nibiru article really is an April Fool's day hoax! 
    Why would you think that?
    Well, I would have thought that because there now might be an increase in people commenting here, believing this doomsday article about Nibiru, as a result of this recent article in a science magazine describing how a respectable scientist Rodney Gomes, an astronomer from the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, announced at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Timberline Lodge, Ore, the results of his simulation of a region beyond Pluto known as the "scattered disk," suggesting the presence of an as yet to be discovered massive world.  And also because other respectable scientists have made the following observations :-
    The scattered disk is a sparsely populated region that overlaps with the Kuiper belt at around 30 AU (Neptune's orbit), and some scattered disk objects (or SDOs) have extreme orbits that extend to 100 AU. One such small world is Sedna, a dwarf planet with a highly elongated orbit. 
    "Sedna's orbit is truly peculiar," said Caltech planetary scientist Mike Brown, who led the team that discovered Sedna in 2003.These extreme orbits, argues Gomes, could be due to the presence of an unknown massive planet. By his reckoning, a planet four times the size of Earth may be out there beyond the orbit of Pluto. In his simulation, he placed the gravitational field of a large planet and watched the effect it had on the SDO's orbits. 
    "Rodney Gomes is actively seeking further evidence, and I await his findings with interest!" 
    Douglas Hamilton, an astronomer at the University of Maryland, told Life's Little Mysteries. "He has taken on a difficult task, but is taking the right approach. It is definitely a high-risk, high-reward, situation -- a discovery of a new planet would be spectacular!"  
    Especially as Johannes actually opens this article by saying :- 
    Ridicule might delay truth but it can't replace it. In recent weeks astonishing rumors have been spreading fast in science circles, and soon the wider public will be in the know. According to these rumors, despite all the denial and ridicule, planet Nibiru is real. Yes, you read that correctly. Nibiru is a fact. Science leaders are ready to admit the observation of Nibiru. This rogue object was there all the time. Right under our eyes. Since the days of Galileo we are aware of its existence. Initially it was mistaken for a star, and later for a solar system planet. It's neither....
    The breaking news is that our solar WIMP, aka Nibiru, aka Planet-X, aka Neptune, is behaving according to the Mayan and Nostradamian prophecies. It is leaving its unstable orbit and will soon be on its way to Earth. Large-scale computations by a NASA team headed by Dr. Nancy Lieder have revealed that this WIMP weighing in at 17 times Earth, will approach our planet at the end-date of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, December this year. The good news is: there will be no collision. I repeat: NIBIRU AND EARTH WON'T COLLIDE. However, that does not mean the close encounter will not affect us. Far from that. On December 21st, at the point of closest approach, Nibiru's gravitational forces will cause unparalleled tidal effects on Earth's oceans, and large-scale global tsunamis will result.
    Not everyone reading articles here is up on the Asperger's spectrum, like many of the authors here, so they might not notice the post date, skim read the article and not even read the comments sections. A small percentage will leave comments for you and Hank to respond to, showing their confusion and concern, a much higher percentage will go away confused and misled. But, hey, what do you guys care? Many of these people are just 'whackos' for whom there is no help. You are not in any way responsible, they are the April fools, not you! Well, I'm afraid that I disagree, there should be a disclaimer in this article now, explaining that it is an April Fool's day joke.




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    Gerhard Adam
    ...there should be a disclaimer in this article now, explaining that it is an April Fool's day joke.
    There is.  You and at least half a dozen other comments indicate it as such.  If someone still doesn't figure it out .... oh well.
    Mundus vult decipi
    But wouldn't water get in?

    DO ANYONE HERE HAVE A STRONG ENOUGH TELESCOPE (or the $$$) TO GO LOOK? It would be greatly appreciated, someone out there should be a HERO, and if your not that person than you have the right to speak.

    Wasn't this predicted to come in 2003 by you Nancy? Oh 2003 has gone hasn't it? Total fantasy, the earth will end yes but in millions of years to come. I'm sure you will all feel embarrassed of yourselves after December has passed.

    Open your eyes Danny. Don't you see what is happening? Just look at the date of the above article and the dates of the first seven comments. Strange, isn't it? Reactions are pouring in before the article got posted! Do you really believe that? What do you think of NASA's role in this? Can this web site of volunteers withstand their pressure? MiB will react to this post within days. Don't let them fool you!

    Hank
    Yes, Johannes posted this article on April 1st in his timezone but not April 1st of the server's time zone - and because we changed the date of the article to try and make it more obvious it must be a vast conspiracy.
    Gerhard Adam
    It's amazing what people will look at to support their conspiracies. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    We're in very deep shit !.

    Funny article. Putting the Nibiru hype aside, I wonder: is there any basis for the Titius-Bode regularity? Can we, with the benefit of having centuries of experience with Newtonian dynamics, explain this description of the planetary orbits? Is it all a coincidence?

    First time to this site, just arrived from an around about way to this article. I guess i haven't been following up on my dooms day lore as much as i should, but i was not aware that such a "threat" as Nibiru was even hanging over our heads (no pun intended). I find it hard to believe that there are people out there that would read this article and believe it was fact and that any of the commenter’s spewing things about how people should heed these warnings were serious. It seems so far from believable that it in turn makes it un-believable (to me) that anyone would actually put any credence into something so ludicrous. I also know that this logic is flawed, being that there is no logic in belief to begin with, it's just something the human mind turns into fact.

    Anywho, there isn't really a point in this comment (and i rarely if ever make comments), mostly just bored and slightly astounded at the absurdity of some of the comments. Not to mention the heated emotions such an article could evoke in people.

    Gerhard Adam
    You should have seen some of the ones that got deleted.  :)

    Mundus vult decipi
    We have pictures of nibiru from Australia(28 th may).
    We have crop circles with nibiru in England(9th june).
    The position of nibiru and 2 moons is the same in pictures and crop circles.

    ALL IS EVIDENT:NIBIRU EXISTS AND EVERY DAY IS CLOSER.

    YOU CAN LAUGH,YOU CAN SAY NO,NO ,NO.

    THE TRUTH IS EVIDENT.

    YOU CAN CLEAN THIS MESSAGE TOO.

    Gerhard Adam
    I have to admit, I don't believe I've ever seen such dedication and documentation of nutcases in my entire life.  This isn't a cottage industry.  This is an entire x-dimensional array of activities.

    http://yowusa.com/planetx/2012/planetx-2012-05a/1.shtml

    http://coupmedia.org/seti/crop-circle-2012-predicts-nibiru-s-return-2404

    http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/chemtrails-what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying.html

    This defines a whole level of crazy that I didn't fully realize existed.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    This defines a whole level of crazy that I didn't fully realize existed. 
    Surely you can see that this blog is just feeding the Nibiru fire Gerhard? They are interesting Nibiru crop circles in your link though! Having worked as a project leader of a team for many years, I have to say that I'm always amazed just by the organisational skills involved in making these crop circles. Especially the Pi crop circle below, which I once visited within hours of it being made, I think we were the first people to enter the circle after its creation. 

    We just happened to be driving past the location the last time I was visiting England, early in the morning on our way to another crop circle, that had been well documented on the Internet, somewhere near the Wiltshire White Horse and we asked some local guy for directions and he pointed to the field and said 'have you seen that one over there? It definitely wasn't there yesterday'. He said many of the locals and the farmers hate the crop circles as they attract undesirable people to the area and cause farmers a lot of crop damage. Might be good if you are a local ice cream salesman or a pub landlord though? 

    When you are inside the crop circle it is very pristine and amazingly consistent, all of the flattened blades lying in roughly the same swirling direction. It was also huge! You couldn't make out the overall shape of the Pi structure by standing in the crop circle. Only these aerial photos later revealed that :-
    Carved out in a barley field, this 150ft wide pattern is said to be a pictorial representation of the first ten digits of Pi, one of the most fundamental symbols in mathematics. 



    The dot in the crop circle (which at the time we had no idea represented pi) seemed to be made of a very fine, dark, moist, potters clay, some of which I scooped up and easily formed into a ball in my hands, to keep as a souvenir. It dried into an amazingly heavy, smooth, very hard ball of clay, which I carried around with me in my handbag until we came back to Australia, where unfortunately I had to drop it into an airport customs garbage bin because of the strict Australian custom importation rules and regulations in place, designed to protect Australia from introduced pests. 

    If any of my teams that I have worked with had made this crop circle, I'm sure there would have been evidence of the occasional punch up somewhere in the crop and I would have also expected to find quite a lot of blood, sweat and tears daubed around the place and occasional footprints too but there was no evidence at all that we could see, these crop circlers seem to work in complete harmony! The other amazing thing is that they are usually created in the dark, without any visible lights that the locals and farmers would have presumably seen and then reported to police, as there were buildings nearby. Very impressive (excuse the pun) :)
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    The last crop circle(9 th june 2012),say us all we need to know:

    it´s nibiru system 3 times.
    IT ´S VERY EASY:NIBIRU SYSTEM WILL PASS DURING 3 MONTHS,BETWEEN 9 TH JUNE AND 9TH SEPTEMBER.
    THE CLOSEST APPROACH WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE,THE 25 TH JULY.
    THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WILL BE BETWEEN 25 TH JULY AND 9 TH AGOST,JUST THE OLIMPIC GAMES TIME.

    I KNOW YOU DON´T BELIEVE ME,BUT HELEN IS VERY CLEVER,SHE CAN SAY YOU THE TRUTH ,IF SHE WANTS........

    what if everything is true and he is speaking the truth. then we are in for a hell of a time and who knows, maybe the entire human race will go extinct like the dinosaurs.maybe that had to do with Nibiru. listen, im just a fifteen year old kid and maybe i dont know what im talking about but i want the facts and all the doomsday websites are saying the same exact thing so im sticking with my ideas and you guys have every right to believe whatever you want.

    Gerhard Adam
    Look, I don't want to sound patronizing, but it isn't simply a matter of what you choose to believe at this moment.  It also involves decisions that you might make, especially those that affect others [especially those with families to care for]. 

    You indicated that you're 15 years old, so imagine how your life would be affected if your parents took this threat seriously.  Imagine that they sell their home and build a bunker in the woods.  You no longer go to school, since there's no point in an education.  No point in worrying about your friends or a future.  Do you think that would be reasonable or do you think that more information would be more prudent?

    This has often resulted in people bankrupting themselves and unnecessarily endangering their own lives for no better reason than some crackpot rumor.  So, it isn't simply a matter of what you believe, unless you truly don't intend to change your behavior.  In which case, it also doesn't matter what anyone else says since either outcome is perfectly acceptable.
    Mundus vult decipi
    This message is for Sean:

    In the crop circle(2th june 2012) we have the date of THE RAPTURE.
    People wants to know the date reading like a polar clock,it´s not possible JESUS SAID ME HOW TO READ THE DATE.
    IT ´S SIMPLE,IT´S LIKE AN OLD CLOCK.

    THE RAPTURE WILL BE THE 2TH JULY 2012 AT 8:45:50 A.M.

    1 MILLON PEOPLE(FOLLOWERS OF JESUS)ARE WAITING FOR THE RAPTURE ,NOW THEY KNOW THE DATE.

    WE NEED TO WAIT ONLY 13 DAYS.

    Gerhard Adam
    Only 1 million?  There are going to be some seriously disappointed Christians out there.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Gerhard,

    You are very funny,IF YOU WANT I CAN EXPLANE ALL.

    When i explane,don´t clean my message,OK........

    1 millons followers of Jesus is not the same that 1 millon Christians.

    The followers of Jesus are the people who have done all Jesus said during YEARS,ALL JESUS SAID,YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN...........

    Christians are people WHO SAY THEY BELIEVE IN JESUS,BUT THEY DO NOTHING JESUS SAID.

    IS NOT THE SAME ,THE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS ARE SONS OF GOD,THE CHRISTIANS ARE FOLLOWERS OF THE CHURCH OF SATAN,YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFERENCE?

    A real Christian is a follower of Jesus,a real son of God.

    He knows about reincarnation,about soul,about LOVE.

    He knows about the rapture,about the return of Jesus ,about the next AGE OF GOLD.

    A bad Christian is an hypocrite,a follower of Satan,you understand?

    A real Christian doesn´t have a church,he doesn´t go to the church every Sunday.

    He can speak with Jesus into his heart,he doesn´t need priests,Vatican..............

    You can laugh,I WILL EXPLAIN ALL WHAT YOU WANT.

    Ask and I will answer you.

    The real Christians(1 millon) will be rapted the 2th july 2012 at 8:45:50.Look to the pictures of the crop circle ,2th june,perhaps you will understand.

    Another part of real Christians,2 or 3 millons don´t have now the level to be rapted,they have a good level but they need a highest one to be rapted.
    They will stay here still the end.

    When The Earth will be repopulated,they will be the sons of the raptured.

    I DON´T KNOW IF YOU UNDERSTAND,IT´S A STORY ABOUT REINCARNATION AND SOULS.

    I THINK YOU ARE VERY CLEVER,YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANT.

    We are IMMORTAL SOULS into a body.

    Life is a lot of experiences to raise the vibration of our soul.

    IT´S SIMPLE.

    You can look in the mirror and ask yourself if you used your life to raise the vibration of your soul or if instead you wasted your time in appearing richer than your neighbor.

    Lessons learned about April fools jokes:

    Do not make them about highly publicized conspiracy theories...

    2 TH JULY 2012 AT 8:45:50 A.M. IS THE RAPTURE ,REMEMBER.

    THE DATE IS IN THE CROP CIRCLE OF 2TH JUNE.

    YOU CAN READ LIKE AN OLD CLOCK.

    TRY: -
    7-2-12 IS 2TH JULY 2012.

    -8-9-10 IS 8:45:50 A.M.

    IT´S VERY EASY,A CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND.......

    SEE YOU,IN A BETTER WORLD ,I HOPE......................

    Gerhard Adam
    You'd better hope you get raptured on July 2nd, because on July 3rd I'm going to start asking about what happened to all the idiots and cowards that predicted "the end".  I'll assume they crawled back into their holes now that the doomsday they predicted didn't occur.

    Of course, I'll expect a HUGE apology.
    Mundus vult decipi
    No problem.

    Perhaps, I don´t have the highest level to be raptured.

    After the rapture ,you will know because a lot of people have disappeared (a neighbor,a friend,a wife,a son.......).

    The doomsday is after,between 25 th july and 9 th september.

    Tank you to called me IDIOT AND COWARD,I don´t care,I know people don´t understand this.

    IF GOD SAYS ME TO DO SOMETHING,I DO BECAUSE GOD NEVER FAILS.

    Hank
    Well, if he is behind each of these claims and everyone making them speaks ex cathedra, he failed twice last year, in May and November, and I am not even really counting. I predict another failure in July and then in December of 2012 as well.  
    Be happy Gerhard,

    MY WORK IS FINISHED.

    WE NEED TO WAIT ONLY 9 DAYS AND 11 HOURS.

    LOVE AND PEACE FOR EVERYBODY ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

    I LOVE PLANET EARTH AND ALL HUMAN BEINGS BUT THE CHANGE IS HERE AND NOW.

    LUCIFER CAN´T BE THE BOSS MORE TIME.

    THE GAME IS OVER.

    NO HANK,

    A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID ALL THEY WANT.

    JESUS NEVER FAILS.

    dude, shut up... for example i am not a jeezas follower and i ain't died yet. And you tell me about all the other doomsday hoaxes that have been around the last decade like for example 11/11/11 and shit.. dunno bro but if none of this has happened until now Nibiru can come to me 'cos... oh and by the way you may want to press the CAPS LOCK BUTTON BECAUSE MAN, I THINK PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE STUFF YOU WRITE WITHOUT THE BIG WORDS, of course, that if anyone bothers ta read your stuff

    LAST MESSAGE:

    -THE CROP CIRCLE OF 2 ND JUNE SAYS US A DATE.All this time Jesus said me is July 2nd 2012 at 8:45:53 A.M.
    And he said me is the rapture day and I have said you.

    JESUS IS THE LORD AND HE SAYS ALL THE TRUTH ONLY WHEN HE WANTS.

    Just 1 hour ago,Jesus said me all the truth(he doesn´t want people know the date and hour before):

    IT´S SUNDAY JULY 1ST 2012 AT 8:45:53 P.M.(Paris hour).It´s tomorrow evening.

    IT´S NOT THE RAPTURE,IT´S THE BEGINNING OF WORLD WAR III AT THE SAME HOUR OF THE MATCH ITALY-SPAIN IN KIEV OLYMPIC STADIUM.

    THE ILUMINATI HAVE PREPARED A WAR OF 93 DAYS BUT GOD DECIDES STOP IT AFTER 45 DAYS,THE AUGUST 15 TH TO CAN SAVE HIS FOLLOWERS,THE RAPTURE WILL BE AUGUST 15 TH 2012.

    JESUS DOESN´T LIE,HE PREPARES ME TO CAN BE A REAL PROPHET,HE WAS TESTING ME.

    REMEMBER,TOMORROW ,JULY 1ST AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE FOOTBALL MATCH ITALY -SPAIN IN THE OLYMPIC STADIUM OF KIEV WILL BEGIN THE WORLD WAR III SINCE AUGUST 15 TH,THE RAPTURE DAY.

    Gerhard Adam
    Like I've said before.  I'd better see your sorry ass on this site on July 2nd, with a whole lot of capitalized apologies and admission that you're just an idiot.  From there, I would strongly suggest you find yourself a quiet therapeutic hospital with a psychiatric staff with a lot of patience.
    Mundus vult decipi
    I don´t need a psychiatric staff,the prophecy only changes in 12 hours and I EXPLAINS YOU BEFORE.

    BETWEEN JULY 1ST 8:45:50P.M. AND JULY 2ND 8:45:50 A.M.,IT´S ONLY 12 HOURS.

    THE REAL CHANGE IS THE BEGINNINING OF WORLD WAR III AND THE RAPTURE 45 DAYS AFTER,BUT I´M SAYING YOU BEFORE.

    YOU DON´T KNOW THE WAYS OF GOD,HE HAS WANTED TO WARM YOU 2 MONTHS BEFORE(remember I have said you 27 th july in April).

    Then,he has wanted to warm you 2 weeks ago(remember I HAVE SAID YOU 2nd july).

    AND NOW HE SAID YOU EXACTELY THE TRUTH,1ST JULY(WORLD WAR III) AND 15 TH AUGUST(THE RAPTURE).

    YOU CAN THINK ALL YOU WANT ,I DON´T CARE.

    YOU MUST THINK ONLY ONE THING:

    -HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID YOU THAT TOMORROW WILL BEGIN THE WORLD WAR III AND THE RAPTURE WILL BE 45 DAYS AFTER,THE 15TH AUGUST 2012?

    I´M SURE I´M THE ONLY ONE.

    A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT 21 TH JULY AND 21TH DECEMBER BUT NO ONE ABOUT 1ST JULY(WORLD WAR III) AND 15 TH(RAPTURE).

    YOU MUST WAIT ONLY 1 DAY,TOMORROW NIGHT LONDON,PARIS AND ROME WILL BE BOMBED.

    NATO WILL SAY THEY WERE SYRIANS AND IRANIANS BUT NATO WILL LIE:NATO WILL BOMBED LONDON ,PARIS AND ROME TO BEGIN THE WORLD WAR III.

    NATO WANTS TO KILL 90 PERCENT OF POPULATION,THEY WANT AN ATOMIC WAR WITH CHINA,RUSIA,INDIA,PAKISTAN,IRAN,NORTH KOREA,ETC..............

    YOU CAN THINK I´M CRAZY,I DON´T CARE.

    And so mr banana? i think you should listen to gerard

    Gerhard Adam
    YOU CAN THINK I´M CRAZY,I DON´T CARE.
    No need to just think it any more.  Like I said ... I hope your sorry ass finds its way back on here and begins apologizing.
    Mundus vult decipi
    and well rapture-boy, where's the expected world war?

    I wonder how many people will belive this lie about Nibiru and spend their money for stupid unnecessary things

    Gerhard Adam
    Look at the date.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Albert_79: Look at the name of the vehicle/bubble jobby, think about for a second...walking on water etc...

    Everyone...chill, bananas boy has been raptured so won't be coming back here to take flack, well not until the Impromen wears off anyway.

    happy rapture day everybody

    It's now all clear to me. Eunuch's warnings reached us FROM A PARALLEL UNIVERSE! That universe has RAPTURED and now we have lost our CAPLOCK Prophet. His insightful comments and warnings will be missed. Life at Science2.0 will never be the same and definitely less funny. Bye Eunuch.
    PS. How is Gerhard gonne keep himself busy? Any volunteers with a fully functional CAPLOCK key?

    oh oh i do! WELL, TOO BAD BANANAS BOY IS GONE, THIS IS NOT GUNNA BE FUN ANYMORE, SO BEWARE ME! THE NUTZY BOY! BECAUSE THE OTHER NE HAS BEEN RAPTURED

    SO THAT MEANS WE ARE POTATOES WITH SPICY SALSA AND SOME BIG GIANT IS GUNNA EAT YOUR BRAINZ OUT, BUT BECAUSE I AM A PINEAPPLE DEVOTEE I WILL BE SAVED 'CAUSE GIANTS DON'T LIKE THEM AT ALL...

    MUAHUAHUA BEWARE POTATOES WITH SALSA!!

    (this will happen when ducks grow teeth and stones rule the world)

    MUA... HUA... HUAAAA... DIE LOSERS

    i'll leave it like that

    *Looks out side* Nope, still no sign of Nibiru!
    -7/4/12

    Guys please don't worry just live your life before the Earth extincts. All about nibiru is not real, what's real is that god is coming to earth from the heavens and it will cause horrible destruction to choose the people that were responssible with their lifes and people that were going to church and worship to our only GOD OF HEAVENS(G.O.H.).

    Gerhard Adam
    Will you please, shut up.  Go away.  No one is interested in your idiotic interpretations of what you think the end of the world will bring.

    I sure hope that most of you nutcases are totally wrong, otherwise heaven would prove to be an extremely tedious place to spend eternity in.
    Mundus vult decipi
    I don't believe in god or Nibiru. I think death is nothingness; when you die your just dead and nothing else.

    congrats, you proud of yourself? want a cookie? dude if you wanna go talk crap like the other religious nuts, go to a debating site about death and stuff... this post was just a prank... ok? only that people just take it a bit too seriusly

    :D

    Gerhard Adam
    Enoch ??? ... where are you Enoch?

    Don't you owe everyone something?
    Mundus vult decipi
    I don't think he has the balls to come back

    Gerhard Adam
    I'm simply taking to deleting the latest troll comments.  It is beginning to appear like some of these are coming from kids [primarily because they aren't too bright, and they can't spell worth a damn].  In any case, I'm just getting rid of them.  I can only imagine how embarrassing it would be for a god to lay claim to perfection, having such dweebs represent him on earth.  Prophets ... baahh .. I guess you get what you pay for.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Brilliant article: i haven't laughed so much for a long time! I'm reminded of the famous quote attributed to Julius Ceaser:: "Men willingly believe what they wish"

    We have a guy here in the UK named David Icke. He was once a famous sports broadcaster on the BBC. He then proclaimed himself as the 'Son of the Godhead', receiving messages from the spirit worldfor the sake of humanity.

    Needless to say his BBC career was over; but he has made millions from book deals!

    Crazy world!

    okay just let me know, Am i going to die on the 21st if i dont order a bubble thing, cause i need to order like 16 of them, Omg. Shit just got real! I never knew there was a ceres, Wow! I wish i was as smart as you....

    Gerhard Adam
    Your biggest risk of death is ordering 16 of those "bubble things" and either having them fall on you, or having your wife [or whoever else] kill you when they discover you bought them for some stupid internet hoax.

    Of course, if you read the article, you'd also see that they can't actually be ordered, nor that there is anyone that would handle such an order.
    Mundus vult decipi
    MikeCrow
    Just post up your credit card number, I'll get your order processed and on the way most expeditiously.
    Oh, I didn't notice that you'd need to add rush processing to get them prior to the 21st, but we can get them there before then if you do.

    Gerhard just wants to keep anyone he himself doesn't personally know and approve of from surviving.
    Never is a long time.
    what happens if the coastline is full of ice?

    The end of the world comes for thousands of people each and every day...it will come for you and it will come for me.

    Today is the present...the gift we've been given.

    LOL !!!!!!!!! this is BEYOND anything i would EVER have imagined that even an Internet crank could come up with. There's just too much to comment on that would overflow this comment page; i will say, though, that anyone who quotes this Lieder character without a huge tongue-in-cheek is a bigger comic flake than she is.

    Actually though, i'd like to see how many of these plastic bubble-balls end up bobbing around in the pacific ocean, holding nut cases who end up costing the coast guard millions of dollars rescuing them.... not to mention the danger they post rescuers in.

    Well, my comic hat is off to this "author" who has come up with perhaps THE #1 hoax / money scheme yet. You truly have one-up'ed the cable TV infomercial industry !!!!! :-)

    Gerhard Adam
    Make sure you read the date of this article.
    Mundus vult decipi
    What a load, seriously though buy yorself an inflatable ball for 2012 dollars! What a rip off, you a big football is worth that much, course not it's just the figure ismeaningful to conspiracy nuts! If we were all to be wiped out these things would be free to everyone as what use is money after an apocolypse?

    Gerhard Adam
    I'm hoping that your response isn't meant to be taken seriously.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Here is the best video evidence so far: http://ultimatesurvival.net/?p=277

    Gerhard Adam
    Oh boy ... another doomsday date?  I can't wait.
    Mundus vult decipi
    I sense some sarcasm in that comment. However, at the same time.. I don't blame you for not believing in it. However, on the other hand.. I can assure you that Nibiru is real and DOES exist.

    I don't want to use too many scientific terms in order to prove anything to you.. but I can assure you that this is a real event that WILL take place. However, everyone needs to understand that its not going to IMPACT/HIT Earth. However, at the same time.. she (Nibiru) is due to come close enough to Earth during her fly-by journey along her eliptical path.. that her gravitational pull will more than likely cause problems for Earth. For example, have you heard about the pole-shift that is slowly but surely occurring? Well, it is occurring.. and if you Google it.. you'll see that it is indeed slowly taking place. But again, this isn't the "END OF THE WORLD" like many people are trying to tell other people. The people that are going around telling others that this event is going to wipe out Earth and or the human-species.. is absolutely wrong/uneducated and downright ignorant, period. But again, if she gets close enough to Earth.. during her 'fly-by'.. she could and more than likely will cause some minor to major problems for Earth.

    In fact, I have a link for everyone to read.. that is filled with FACTS and comes from a very well respected and reputable science magazine. This article will inform any and all of you 'naysayers' of the truth about Nibiru and how she is for sure, making her approach towards Earth. Here's the link for those who wish to know the truth about the subject of Nibiru.

    LINK TO THE TRUTH ABOUT NIBIRU: http://www.science20.com/hammock_physicist/right_under_our_eyes_nibiru_i...

    Gerhard Adam
    LOL ... good one.
    Mundus vult decipi
    The planet Neptune sounds interesting. There are so many theories. One idea I have is perhaps Nibiru could be a planet from the Alpha Centauri star system. This star system is the closest one to Earth.

    Gerhard Adam
    I hope you're joking.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Erm hello it's the 2nd August and I'm still alive.
    What went wrong ?

    And you will still be alive on December 22nd. Dr. Nancy Lieder? Ha...she talks to lizards...not a very credible source.

    GOOGLE: -NIBIRU 8 AGOSTO 2012

    -Co ORDINATES
    -ThirdAlertArcEmail in Regards to Nibiru

    Read the Email to an Arcmember.

    It explains all,nibiru like a red full moon.
    The cover notice:a false supernova in a far away galaxy.

    AND THE ALERT: THEN GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR BUNKER (LESS 90 DAYS TO THE FINISH)

    IT´S VERY SERIOUS.

    Gerhard Adam
    You idiots never learn.
    Mundus vult decipi
    man this post is just unbelievable! i've never seen so many stupid people together LOL i just pissed my pants laughing at some of the comments... oh boy and enoch came back from rapture haahahh

    Now nibiru is visible in day light,to the NW IN THE EARLY MORNING AT 42 DEG

    LAUGH NOW YOU CAN

    Enoch? is that you?

    yes ,I ´M ENOCH.

    I LOVE YOU AND ALL THE HUMAN BEINGS.

    YOU CAN CALLED ME IDIOT,FOOL,MAD ,CRAZY ,.......

    ALL THAT YOU WANT,READ THE EMAIL TO AN ARC MEMBER.

    I HAVE LOOK FOR ARC BEFORE. IT´S AN CO WITH 39 BUNKERS ALL AROUND U.S.A..

    YOU CAN LAUGH,I DON´T CARE.

    Gerhard Adam
    You never learn.  You owe everyone an apology for your last round of idiocy.  NOTHING you said came true, despite shouting it to the internet.

    You are in desperate need of help and treatment if you believe even a fraction of what you write.  In any case, I'm probably just going to start deleting your posts because the first time around, it was funny.  Now it's just annoying and I don't want to aid, even inadvertently, someone that is as delusional as you are.
    Mundus vult decipi
    CLEAN MI MESSAGE IF YOU WANT ,THEN YOU ´LL CAN SLEEP,BROTHER........

    Gerhard Adam
    Jesus thinks you're an idiot too. 
    Mundus vult decipi
    enoch, you man need asylum... i mean seriously i think this is just too much...

    THANKS ,ALEX, I LOVE YOU TOO.

    READ DE EMAIL TO AN ARCMEMBER AND THINK ABOUT IT(5TH AUGUST 2012).

    GERHARD,ARE YOU FROM TEXAS?

    BONITO SOMBRERO,HERMANO........

    listen bro, at least write without caps, it would make you look less like a nutcase... i've got a degree in psicology and i can tell wether if one is or not so obsessed with something that nears the line of insanity, asi que amigo yo de tu me calmaria un poquitin, bajar esos humos un poco... estamos?

    Why didya delete my post? :-(

    Alex,

    you must change all:

    -not drink

    -not smoke

    -not eat meat

    In 2 months you will be like Lobsang Rampa.......je,je,je,je.....

    Alex,

    The most important is to be vegetarian,brother.

    Then,you ´ll turn into the light,Jesus will help you.

    The second thing you must change is NOT DRINKING AND NOT SMOKING.

    At the end of the year you will be a REAL SON OF GOD,BROTHER.

    Gerhard,

    you can try too,is good for health.

    If you don´t love God ,is not a problem,God always loves you........always

    that's good man, now keep up it like that... i am already vegetarian btw, but thanks for the advice

    Check :``LEUREN MORET´´ in Google.

    We can learn a lot from her........

    Good luck Alex and Gerhard.

    See you.

    Enoch from Spain

    Cheers mate

    Well, it's August 13... and we are all still here. What say you enoch? Did you get left behind?

    dont call him back it's not necessary

    I LIKE SCIENCE. WILL ONE OF YOU NICE PEOPLE (POSSIBLY WEALTHY ENOUGH) HELP A RELATIVELY IMPOVERISHED PERSON BUY A MODERATELY PRICED TELESCOPE? ITS FOR SCIENCE.

    Well I dont know what is true! We will see on december 21 2012!

    We have day and hour for THE RAPTURE:

    16th September at 12 P.M.(Jerusalem time).

    Thanks for remember me.

    Hank
    How is it that the entire Internet has not risen up and put you in a global spam filter?  
    Gerhard Adam
    Oh goody.  Let's see if there's any last minute scheduling changes, like last time.
    Mundus vult decipi
    The rapture is not for you Hank and Gerhard.

    You can stay here still the end like you want.

    But you will see a lot of people all around you who will gone forever.

    Gerhard Adam
    That's good to know.  Of course, it would be more impressive if that were actually in the bible, instead of something made up in the 19th century.

    John Nelson Darby first proposed and popularized the pre-tribulation rapture in 1827
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    You can stay here still the end like you want.
    There is a reason the title of my book is Science Left Behind.
    Gerhard Adam
    Another chapter in the "Left Behind" series .. :)
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    Yeah, the publisher came up with that.  I liked the slyness of tweaking both the 'left' and the 'left behind' fringes in 3 simple words.  Here's hoping we sell some books in return for all the work they did on it.
    Before ,between 9th and 12th sept. we can have A BIG SURPRISE............

    Gerhard Adam
    Ok Enoch, enough is enough.

    You were on here blabbering away about the rapture and end of the world throughout July and August.  Now that that has all passed and NOTHING you said happened, you've shifted the dates to some other time in September.

    Let's face facts.  You're full of shit, and need to stop.  If you really believe this stuff, I would recommend you seek professional help.

    You are simply becoming tedious, and increasingly pathetic.
    Mundus vult decipi
    Goody goody! lets see who gets raptured the most this year

    thank you very much,Gerhard.

    Remember the countdown of the iluminati ends on 9th sept.

    THE WHITE HOUSE WEB WILL BE OFF ON 11TH AND 12TH SEPT.

    The crop circle of the 9th june says something about 9th sept.

    I will return to the asylum.........see you.......

    dont. just dont come back with that crap again man... if you are to cantinue with this give a reason to justify your attitude. Are you so alone that you have to keep coming back here to throw bullshit around so some people keep on answering to your comments therefore fulfills your urge of talking to someone? i would be glad to recommend you to go and visit a psychiatrist so he can give you solutions to your problems and needs

    Im no scientist but this doesnt even pencil out.

    Neptune is 2.7 billion miles from earth we are moving at 67000 mph in our orbit (assuming neptune is moving similarly fast)
    2,700,000,000 / 67000 = 39,850 hours away /24 hrs per day= 1660 days/365=4.55 yrs to impact if it broke off its orbit today. and came right at us and was able to hit a pea moving 67000 miles an hour with a marble

    Gerhard Adam
    ... and if this were anything but an April Fool's joke, you might even have a point.
    Mundus vult decipi
    SO I've been reading this post and comments periodically through the day and I don't understand why people are taking this April's fools joke out of proportion I mean I have heard a lot of talk about nirubu being a brown dwarf star to come and catch itself in the suns gravitational pull and begin spinning around each other or even nirubu being a large planet the size of 8 earths but I can't believe this all just because people on the Internet say it is so Unless I se some evidence and facts and damn Enoch I can't tell if you're serious or trying to go along with the April fools joke but lay off the dooms day thing for a bit any way so yeah I'm not a scientist or anything like u guys I'm just 15 year old who really likes astronomy