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    Climate Change - As If We Care
    By Bente Lilja Bye | December 7th 2011 12:57 AM | 13 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Do we really care about climate change? Since we do very little to reduce or limit activities that we believe we know cause climate change one could argue that we - do - not - in - fact - care.

    Come again?!

    I can almost hear you say.

    At a AGU Town Hall meeting in San Francisco last night a group of engaged scientists discussed "Directions in Climate Change Education and Communication"

    In the AGU program this meeting was introduced the following way:
    The compelling nature of anthropogenic climate change is well documented in science literature. But the public and educators clearly lack understanding and appropriate knowledge of climate change due to legitimate confusion and deliberate obfuscation and distortion of science knowledge by interest groups and corporate entities. This town hall meeting will feature a short panel discussion of climate science communication and education, and a series of small group discussions that will conclude with short format verbal and written reports on future directions.

    The panel that was first giving a short statement with their particular angle on the topic, before the audience was divided into smaller groups that discussed the issues.

    The Panelists included Michael Mann, Richard Somerville, and James Hoggan.

    Somerville started the show by underlining the urgency of the matter of climate change and he repeated several times that the science was clear and well understood. This is when I started to get slightly annoyed.  I just came from a meeting on Extreme geohazards in Spain where we discussed among a number of other issues, the challenge of communicating uncertainty. Climate change is no differently understood than extreme geohazards in this respect - there are uncertainties.

    In my view scientists should stick to communicate science and not divert to politics. It undermines their credibility - at best. At this town hall meeting the participants did not discuss communication of science - they discussed politics and strategies to influence the public, the politicians etc. That is not what I signed up for and I noticed a certain disapproval from the rest of the group when I asked James Hoggan, a renowned PR-consultant, his advice on how we as scientists could best communicate uncertainty. Unfortunately, he didn't really answer my question. His focus at this meeting was basically his books and his award winning website desmogblog. That was all fine and dandy, but I'd be more interested in tapping into his professional PR competence...

    Michael E Mann was giving one piece of advice based on his experience from being attacked by the climate skeptic - in a serious way - we have to give him that, and he said that for him all these attacks represented an opportunity to be heard. Then he read out loud from his latest article in Wall Street Journal...

    I maintain that communicating science should be as factual as possible and not colored by ones subjective preferences of any kind (including political stand).

    Although there were some interesting moments like the statement in the beginning of this article (since we do not do anything we maybe do not care so much about climate change), all in all it was a bit of a disappointment. The panelist basically repeated their pet climate message and the issue that interested me, namely  "Directions in Climate Change Education and Communication" wasn't so much debated. I guess I must have misunderstood that heading....

    Personally, I do care about my planet and I'd love to see the climate scientists devote more time and efforts on unbiased science outreach.

    Comments

    vongehr
    I noticed a certain disapproval from the rest of the group when I asked James Hoggan, a renowned PR-consultant, his advise on how we as scientists could best communicate uncertainty.
    Be prepared to be called a warming denier, Bente. Good luck with trying to question the party line.
    Unfortunately, he didn't really answer my question. His focus at this meeting was basically his books and his award winning website desmogblog. That was all fine and dandy,
    This is why I do not care about climate change anymore. What could one possibly gain from it but either begging for crumbs in a settled niche market or being called a denier for whatever interesting point one may perhaps like to contribute? Directly climate related problems will be negligible compared to those political problems that the nature of the discussion about the climate is symptomatic for.
    Stellare
    Well, since I have written the article Do you believe in global warming? Climategate revisited - again. I think it will be hard to call me a denier. haha

    And it isn't about questioning the party line - it is about having a regular scientific discussion and then be able to communicate what the scientific discussion is about. Should be simple (I know I am naive now..)

    I believe that climate change is going to influence - even more than it does today - other societal issues. It is thus not negligible. On the contrary. Failing to address this influence on our society will cause major political problems. But again, as scientists we should ensure that these political discussions are well informed (about the facts and climate change science).

    Bente Lilja Bye is the author of Lilja - A bouquet of stories about the Earth
    vongehr
    Well, since I have written the article ... I know I am naive now.
    Nothing to add. ;-)
    The AGU now has Chris Mooney on its Board. This is a clear message of their intention to support a particular political POV.

    Stellare
    I'm afraid I do not know Chris Mooney. But that doesn't matter. All scientists have their personal political views - like all other people have. It possible to have political opinions and still be a good scientist. ;-) You just have to know when you are politically opinionated and when you are being a scientist.
    Bente Lilja Bye is the author of Lilja - A bouquet of stories about the Earth
    Hank
    He is a journalist who is noted for writing a book called "The Republican War on Science" and he blogs for a left wing political site. Still, his impact on the science at the AGU is nonexistent.  Plus, I don't see how he could skew the AGU anyway.  Science academia is already down to 6% Republicans - pretending a journalist advising the AGU will make the political makeup less discriminatory and partisan would be to defy the numbers; it can't get any more partisan than it is without an outright ban on Republicans.
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    Bente, when trying to communicate climate science to the public in a forum like the one you mentioned, would there be any harm in inviting a climatologist who isn't Michael Mann or a left leaning PR consultant? Instead of Michael Mann telling everybody that climate deniers are crazy, why not a debate between Mann and another scientist who doesn't share Mann's views?

    I ask because I find it amusing that most science writers and scientists frame this debate and simultaneously complain that the public remains skeptical.

    The problem is that we've been told so many times that it is our last chance to save our planet, it has lost any impact it may have once had. Year after year, the climate fails to follow the dire predictions given to us by the media and our politicians, that it has become a boy who cried wolf cycle. I would very much love to hear direct from the scientists "in the know" before our politicians get hold of it and spin it through the media, sliver lining it for their own agenda.

    Climate change rests with the individual, each one of us making little changes for the greater good. Hold your breath for policy changes etc and you'll die from a lack of clean air to breath far sooner than our planet will.

    UvaE
    Climate change rests with the individual, each one of us making little changes for the greater good.
    What if the "little changes" only come from too few committed people? 'Especially if they get political, and get their actions neutralized by the inertial reaction of threatened interests.

    The problem has some parallels to cholera in 19th century London. There was no sum of
    actions from individual ordinary citizens that saved the day. Scientific understanding of the problem and the chemical treatment of water is what proved to be the durable and long term solution to the crisis.

    Similarly we cannot rely on enough people to conserve energy or expect large cities without access to hydroelectricity to generate massive amounts of electrical power without fossil fuels. So in that case, the wastes (carbon dioxide) have to be filtered.
    Can you or your readers suggest a person/firm who has expertise in climate change communication? Someone who is a teacher, an educator (not a lobbyist)? A person who can speak to concerned community leaders in a way that motivates mitigation and adaptation planning and action? I'm assisting the non-profit science based Geos Institute based in Ashland, Oregon with their ClimateWise process (www.climatewise.org). You can write to me at keith (at) geosinstitute.org
    Thanks
    -Keith Henty

    This is a very good article that will enhance your integrity and credibility Bente.Don't let Sascha intimidate you into a false humility ,it would be very good for this blog if instead of just running away from climate change into the too hard basket as Sascha has done ,we could enlist his evangelical verve in confronting it.

    Bente, you might like a song I wrote. Hit the link and scroll down to Big Trouble Tomorrow Today.
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    What is your opinion of the idea that windmills collecting energy with vectors parallel to the equator are slowing the rotation of the earth?