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    By Tommaso Dorigo | June 22nd 2012 04:53 PM | 5 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    I am an experimental particle physicist working with the CMS experiment at CERN. In my spare time I play chess, abuse the piano, and aim my dobson...

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    "It is pure craziness what Politics is doing in our country (Italy, T.'s n.): that is, investing little and bad in research, letting the brightest minds escape, not rewarding excellence, and failing to attract foreign researchers. Not doing, that is, what is being done in Soccer, where Italy is in the first places, exactly because Soccer clubs deploy the best players, their selection is based on their merits, the best ones are very highly paid to avoid them to leave, and the best players are sought abroad to make the team a winning one. And even the coach, if (s)he does not bring home results, gets fired.

    To sum it up, we in Italy occupy ourselves much more in the selection of feet than in the selection of  brains."

    Piero Angela, journalist, anchorman and science reporter

    Comments

    Hank
    The best players are at Real Madrid, though - and there is no way science and the general economy in Italy can be managed as badly as Spain.  That said, Real Madrid is a miracle of economics so perhaps they are more religious in Spain - the team seems to lose $100 million a year yet can somehow always buy new players.

    I would love to have lived in Italy, I would love to have lived in France.  But at the time when I was doing more corporate work that would merit opening a foreign office, the business climate was incredibly hostile to foreign corporations.  If the public would stop regarding foreign companies as evil and not establish so many regulations, money would pour in to Europe - and that would lead to a lot more research and scientists getting paid more.

    Of course, I live in California, which is far worse than any country in Europe about business.  So if I can't fix the problem here, my advice for Italy certainly does not have much value.

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    Hank, wikipedia says
    "... Real Madrid has won 75 trophies ...
    Barcelona leads the count in official title won with 79 trophies ...
    All-Time Head-to-Head Results
    Real Madrid wins 91
    Draws 55
    Barcelona wins 104 ..."

    which supports my view of Barcelona as the best.

    Further,
    the Catalan language is closer to the perfect language (Italian)
    than is Castilian Spanish.

    (I will concede that back in April 2012 Real Madrid did win 2-1
    but
    Barcelona won 3-1 back in December 2011)

    Tony

    Hank
    Barca is good, I grant that, but their approach is all wrong when the topic of Tommaso's post is money. Barca tend to grow teams through youth development, which has obviously worked, but the imperialist in me prefers the Real Madrid way; dominate by buying the best players. 

    RM had $828 million in revenue last year, way ahead of even Manchester United - and money counts in science.  Of course, they did not win the Champions League but, as my father always said, "the sun don't shine on the same dog's ass all of the time."

    Maybe he should have been a soccer coach?


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    UvaE
    Apparently Netherlands not only has less of a brain drain than Italy, but it also attracts more foreign scientists. When polled, researchers said that what attracted them to Holland was a good knowledge infrastructure. Does Italy have such a thing?

    Bright people are also turned off by many of the problems that plague Italy:

    (1) deep deficit due to excess pensions, underdeveloped south, corruption in south and north.
    (2) ridiculous patronage
    (3) high cost of fuel and electricity due to high dependence on imports
    (4) a long history of terrible governments led by highly, selfish leaders ranging from Mussolini to Berlusconi. The latter's tenure was overextended mainly because the electorate gets most of its knowledge of current events not from the written word but from television, which Berlusconi owns and manipulated.



    True is, by the way, that physics, or science more in general, should find a way to be more main stream. I mean if we could find a way to interest people, I say in particle physics, then more money would be spent in research and stuff. That's not exactly what many physicists do around the world in my opinion, and I don't think they'd like to do.