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    Science 2.0 - Darwinian Selection Of The Best Paper
    By Hontas Farmer | June 4th 2010 09:52 AM | 29 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
    Science 2.0 is Openness and transparency.  Those buzz words mean open* access to both reading and publishing and sharing ones opinion on what is published.  Transparency means a process where any editorial decisions that are made are based on known written criteria which are the minimum to keep a science 2.0 website/journal free of spam and pornography.  The only question is how open and how transparent?  In my opinion the answer is that science 2.0 has to be open to everyone who is interested in practicing science.  There should be no initial litmus test based on educational attainment, employment status, reputation, or any other such traditional criteria.  

    Before I go on examples of websites that look like science 2.0 but are not quite there yet. 

     The xxx.lanl.gov/arxiv.org pre-print archive.  This website started out as a science 2.0 like place where basically anyone with at least a .edu email address could publish pre-prints of work that was to be published.  It is no longer as open as that.  Now it requires a very wizard of Oz like "endorsement system".  In this system only certain folks, called endorsers, are considered competent to decide who's competent.  Further if the men behind the curtain disagree then those folks can be stripped of endorsement ability.   It is very much not a transparent system at all.   For those reasons arxiv would be science 1.4 maybe 1.5. 

    Another would be living reviews of Relativity. http://relativity.livingreviews.org/  it too is beyond science 1.0.  It is an online only journal in which invited scientist are given the ability to publish review articles of certain area's of physics.  They are then allowed to maintain and update those articles as the field develops.  The articles are free to read.  However the articles are only those solicited by the editors from acknowledged experts in their fields and in many ways it's a traditional journal.  For those reason's it's science 1.2. 

    Seeing what I consider to not meet the standards of science 2.0 one may wonder just what would?   

    This very website is a good working example of science 2.0.  It is open to anyone who has access to a computer and can type.  It's publication policies are transparent.  Their is no review by special people involved in deciding what get's published.  The quality control comes after publication.  Anyone can comment on anything they can vote them up or down, choose to link others to them or not.  In a sense science 2.0 taps into a sort of Darwinian principle  "survival of the best paper".  Yes such a process produces much more material to look at but it also makes sure that the best papers weather they come from professors with well known names or people with no formal training find an audience.   

    In science 1.X the quality of a paper is linked somehow to the reputation, education, or employment (all of which link to other socioeconomic factors) of the person publishing it.  Perhaps eventually the impact of a bad paper would show it to be worthless, but not always.   

    In science 2.X the quality of a paper will be judged solely by the quality of the paper.  The value of the material is determined by how many reads it gets, the comments it generates, and how often it is cited.  Even a paper that is cited many times to refute it is worth more than a paper that is never cited or linked at all.   Most importantly none of this has anything to do with the status of the person who writes the paper.   Papers that are never cited, or which have many negative comments will perish, those that are cited more and have more positive comments survive on their merits alone.  

    Scientific blogging is only one of a few first websites that are science 2.0.  It has solved the problem of how to make money and have free open access.  Just like the news paper business Journals will move to first online formats.  Once a journal is online it is only a matter of a bit of coding to add commenting ability, and voting on each paper.  The last step would be for them to open their publication and commenting to the general public and abandon peer review.   This will be a slow evolution.  As a new generation that has grown up with blogs, and twitter and social networking graduates and/or takes an interest in science this will happen.  It is as inevitable as the opening up of publication due to the printing press. 

    Comments

    Touché, Hontas! I can find no fault in your reasoning. : )
    Hfarmer
    That's the best compliment.  Thank you. 
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    You're quite welcome, Hontas. : )
    logicman
    Brilliant!

    I'm waiting to see what Hank has to say.  For me, I think you've nailed it.

    So much that is published fails to highlight the idea that an author's scientific ideas should stand on the merit of the scientific content and not the author's reputation.

    The worst kind of argument from authority is the argument from inherited authority: "I am a blue-blooded aristocrat, so you can trust my every word to be true."  Sure!  Thank you Lord Cardigan1; don't call us, we'll call you.

    [1] - Lord Cardigan famously used his own military 'expertese' rather than real expert advice when ordering the Charge of the Light Brigade.

    ... he ‘was of the species which repeats a hundred times over in the same words the same version of the same facts.’
    http://crimeantexts.russianwar.co.uk/topics/maxlet.html

    Hfarmer
    One would think that never happens here since we don't have a nobility?  We come pretty close with the rich, famous, politicians, and those descended from certain politicians (the rich and famous ones).  I know we do because Chicago's Mayor Richard M Daley should have gone to prison by now.   How many Kennedy's have avoided jail because their Kennedy's?   I could go on. 
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    Hank
    This very website is a good working example of science 2.0. 
    It had sure better be, or I should give that registered trademark to someone who understands it better than we do.  Oddly, I keep a Science 2.0 watch page, just for fun, to see how bastardized and misused and, essentially, made up Science 2.0 is by virtually everyone who discusses it.   I mean, they get none of it right.    Basically, people define it to mean whatever they want it to mean.

    How can that happen?  Honestly, I think the Internet is making people mentally lazy.   This professional writer did a '7 Science 2.0 pioneers' article and not only got 5 out of 7 people ridiculously wrong, but said she had never heard of me - because she had done a Google search and then none of the people she interviewed mentioned me.    I guess it would make old school journalists cringe - I am all the way down at #5 out of 169,000,000 results but big old corporate media Science 1.0 Scientific American is #1 so she must have started there and asked that guy for his opinion.   Old style journalism 1.0 still has a lot of life left in it.
      
    The Wikipedia page is all wrong too and they don't seem to have asked anyone who knows anything about Science 2.0 for input.

    So, yeah, to answer Patrick's question, what you wrote is fine.  At least you have thought about it and how it needs to be different from old science 1.0 to merit a 2.0, which is more than most anyone else can say.
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    Hfarmer
    Thankyou It's good to know I am at least close.  To the media and most people science and scientist have a certain mystique and rarefied air about them.  It's the very rigidity and exclusivity that makes them worth talking to.  This medium we are communicating in is neither of those things. Their basic mistake is to look at the titles people have their names and reputations and decide who to listen to based only on that.   I guess it's all we can expect from people who are just trying to get a grip on the whole idea of science 1.0 let alone 2.0 really. 

    Your so right about the way journalist have treated this, and the internet making people mentally lazy.  It's like now that a person can Google whatever they want to know about from their phone anyone can "know" anything.  
    As for Wikipedia the way they operate is more like the way journalist operate.  I was heavily involved with that for a while.  Authority on a matter certainly does not mean that one should win an argument by default.  However Wikipedia as a matter of it's policy ignores people with experience and first hand knowledge. Even if I asked you to define science 2.0....  The information would be excluded because it would be original research ( WP:OR ).  If you or I wrote it in a blog entry they would consider it unreliable.  They consider all blog entries to be unreliable because anyone can have one. ( WP:RS)*

    *WP does want its sources to be people with the very authority that they would ignore if that person signed into Wikipedia. They "reason" that way not recognizing the same "logic" could apply to them. 
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    rholley
    This has made me aware of some intrinsic logical inconsistencies built into the way Wikipedia operates.  I’m not suggesting that its founders have been in any way slapdash, rather that this is one of the “unsolvabilities” implicit in mathematical logic.   Rather like the continuum hypothesis, which can neither be proved nor disproved.
     However Wikipedia as a matter of it's policy ignores people with experience and first hand knowledge.
    So if that “first hand” is big and hairy, they will invalidate any contribution from it on the subject of Bigfoot!

    One question, though – what does “tase” mean, please?
    Robert H. Olley Quondam Physics Department University of Reading England
    Hank
    Indeed, on Wikipedia it seems to be easy to create an article completely made up (like their Science 2.0 entry) but when I suggested it be edited to be even remotely accurate the moderator asked me to redo the 1.5 years of legal work I had to do for the USPTO to get Science 2.0 as a registered trademark ... before I could even be considered an authority.  About Science 2.0.  On Wikipedia.  I went about trademarking it at all because boneheaded articles starting showing up written by people seeking to gerrymander it for themselves and their corporate overlords.   How to protect it from Wikipedia hacks?
    science 2.0 trademark
    So Robert's example is correct.   If someone invents facts about Bigfoot, no problem for Wikipedia, but Bigfoot himself would not be allowed to make any corrections.
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    Hfarmer
    Yeah that's the trust of it.  I think the consideration they had was conflict of interest.  So much of what they talk about are political things, history, "controversial" science, anything related to the Israel-Palestinian conflict.  Basically they erred on the side of being a bit wrong on some things to avoid having their "encyclopedia" become a political battleground. 
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    Hfarmer
    Tase.  As in being shocked with a particular brand of stun gun.  It shoots out two wires a certain distance.  That line comes from a really funny video.    About 1:55 into this video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE )   I suppose it should not be funny a person getting shocked.... but as soon as he calls that black police officer "bro" that's it for him.    He sealed his fate.  When I first started blogging here that was my signature and I like it.  It gives me a giggle.  
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    rholley
    I looked up Taser on Wikipedia (does that make me a heretic?) and find that the name is short for Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle.  And there was me thinking it was a Terahertz Laser.
    Robert H. Olley Quondam Physics Department University of Reading England
    It had sure better be, or I should give that registered trademark to someone who understands it better than we do.


    Don't worry, Hank. It is, in my not so humble opinion! lol ;-)
    "The value of the material is determined by how many reads it gets, the comments it generates, and how often it is cited."

    "

    I hope the maths adding up to a definite proof of what the paper set out to proof counts as well. Assigning peer reviews who are paid to take the trouble to do that, is the difference between science being done properly or not.

    Amateur Astronomer
    Hank,

    I am a registered user at Wikipedia and can edit the article any way you wish. That doesn't mean it will stay that way. Any other registered user can change it again. So far I didn't do anything to the main page but did add the following message to the talk page.

    Your message is there but is not signed and has no link to you.

    Wikipedia recently got refinanced from a 15 million dollar funding drive. It makes them able to respond and willing to listen.

    ___________________________________-

    == Link to Trademark Owner Of "Science 2.0" And Photo Of Registration Certificate ==

    http://www.scientificblogging.com/comments/42408/Re_very_website_good

    There are legal issues involved here about ownership and usage of trademarks.

    _____________________________________


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Science_2.0


    If you don't like this comment then I can delete it or change it.
    Hank
    I guess it's fine.  A direct link to USPTO will not work because links timeout after a few hours and I don't think a trademark means much to Wikipedia readers anyway but the "Mickey Mouse" entry has Disney as trademark holder so it just seemed odd that I couldn't edit the Science 2.0 entry without having to prove I was qualified by duplicating all the legal work I did to get the trademark in the first place.

    What does "There are legal issues involved here about ownership and usage of trademarks" mean?  There is no legal issue I know of.  When you own something, you own it.

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    Amateur Astronomer
    The legal issue is that the internal standards that Wikipedia has established are not being followed on that page and your legal rights are not acknowledged as the rules require. There is a risk of losing the ownership if the word is allowed to become a generic term, something that almost happened to Xerox when they were number one.

    If you post the certificate photo on your profile page and agree to the link, I can put the link either in the talk page or in the main page. It can be deleted, but the person who deletes it can be banned from editing.

    I copied your photo to my souvenir files, but have not posted it into a public place.

    Either way it should be your choice.


    Hank
    It's a public document so it's fine to put it anywhere people like.  I think if the USPTO set up links it would make life simpler.  Their system is rather arcane and they need to 'release' resources, they say.

    I put a link in an article because otherwise graphics are just links to our download folder rather than anything related to me.   The article is http://www.scientificblogging.com/science_20/what_science_20_no_one_else...  and the drect graphic link is http://www.scientificblogging.com/sites/all/modules/author_gallery/uploa...

    Thanks for doing this.   I haven't messed with Wikipedia much because one time a few years ago I added in blog URLs for some of our more famous science writers who have entries there and got cautioned that I would be listed as a spammer if I did any more than the two I did.  Like this Science 2.0 thing, the rules seem rather arbitrary.   Marketing and PR people know how to circumvent the rules so these odd filters only seem to block out legitimate people.
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    Amateur Astronomer
    Hank,

    Your trademark notice is posted on Wikipedia.

    The talk page has your two links and an explanation of the legal issue.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Science_2.0


    The main page has the Trademark Declaration at the top.
    Down in the links the first link is sent to your discussion page.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_2.0

    I checked the new links and they work fine.

    Your welcome and thanks for being tolerant of people with different opinions.
    Hank
    Thanks.  It feels sort of pushy to do that but I am not thrilled that corporate media is often considered the creators of science 2.0 because they show up before me on a multi-billion dollar search engine.   I assume it is marketing people doing this other stuff.   Under 'Research' for example, Mendeley is listed as an example of Science 2.0 but their press releases have also called themselves iTunes, Pandora and Last.fm so they will use anything that comes to mind.   But at least for iTunes they acknowledge it is someone else's trademark and don't try to put it on the iTunes wikipedia entry.
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    Amateur Astronomer
    Your welcome.

    It's not pushy at all.

    Wikipedia rules require the writers to give recognition and credit.

    You could have rewritten the whole page, but then someone else would rewrite it again. I thought it needed a lot of help, but didn't want to get into a long involved process on something I don't know much about.

    The changes we made are really the bare minimum that Wikipedia rules require. That was the reason for choosing those items.
    logicman
    Well done, Jerry!

    I gave up writing for wikipedia after someone deleted an entire article.

    I still don't like the entry's first paragraph - 'or research 2.0' uses 'or' in its sense of 'also known as'.  That is just plain wrong.  Science 2.0 is a means of free exchange of ideas - research 2.0 is about market research as a tool of the paid-for exchange of marketable commodities.

    As I wrote in my own article on this:
    Research 2.0 is a term coined in 2006 by Ray Poynter to signify market research.  Science 2.0 and research 2.0 do not belong on the same page in the same Wikipedia article.  Chalk and cheese!
    Still, we can't have everything.  :-)
    Amateur Astronomer
    Thanks Patrick.

    Wikipedia has done a lot for me, but they aren't interested in much of my writing.

    It's nice to have access occasionally when there is a good reason for it.

    Wikipedia is the historical record. Science 2.0 is a view of the future.

    The issue here today is one that I know very little about, but it went around several times, and the answer is clear cut.

    Jerry
    logicman
    the answer is clear cut

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    Hfarmer
    The question is not quite as clear.  
    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    logicman
    The question is not quite as clear. 
    :-)  Another HHG2G fan!
    Hank
    Under Implementation, I added 

    Communication and outreach

    Examples of communication and outreach tools are ScientificBlogging.com and Nature Network. ScientificBlogging is the world's largest online science writing community and anyone can sign up and write articles and blogs. Nature Network is social networking for scientists, with blogs, forums, and groups.


    because as it read it seemed like collaboration and research were the only two aspects of Science 2.0.   If that were true we wouldn't need Science 2.0, some more moron could just write an article in Science saying "Let's do more collaboration and outreach".
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    Hfarmer
    Hmm that's good.  Though I made a couple of changes.  The first line which mentions the trademark... I reformatted it into a form which is more likely to stay and not be deleted or reverted.  I wrote 
    The term'''Science 2.0''' is a registered trade mark of  ION PUBLICATIONS  LLC <ref>[http://www.scientificblogging.com/sites/all/modules/author_gallery/uploads/1378387531-science%202.0%20trademark%20copy%20small.jpgTrademark Registration]</ref>


    The way it is now is more in the style WP prefer's. To be honest I don't see why the article needs both "implementations" and "examples" sections.  I can't think of a way to do away with them without starting from scratch.

    Science advances as much by mistakes as by plans.
    Great post look forward to read more.