Great News! Evolution Is Even More Interesting Than We Thought
    By Hank Campbell | September 13th 2012 01:07 PM | 7 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
    Did you know evolution was 'in crisis?' Neither did I, but Jason Rosenhouse at Scienceblogs is on the case, this time debunking a somewhat sing-songy phrase by philosopher of science John Dupre.

    Now, we need more philosophers of science as much as we need fewer philosophers.  Unlike their kooky humanities counterparts, legitimate philosophers of science get both the context of science and its bigger meaning. While being a philosopher is easy, because it's all made-up nonsense these days, a philosopher of science needs to have a strong grounding in both.  Some of my favorite physics articles ever on Science 2.0 were written by a philosophy professor.

    That said, any philosopher knows words have meaning and using them in ways that de-construct science, by accident or on purpose, is going to get called out if they are wrong. Rosenhouse does that nicely, first showing all the things Dupre has done right so that his criticism has its own context.

    The criticism is over “Evolutionary Theory’s Welcome Crisis” and then the sentence, "The creationists are right about one thing: contrary to the impression given by much popular writing on the subject, the theory of evolution is in crisis."

    The problem, he notes, and I won't belabor it because this is in the Cool Links section so it's better to just go read his article,
     is not simply that it is politically unwise to phrase things as Dupre has done. It is that Dupre’s statement is completely false, and not at all supported by anything that comes after it. When creationists tell their flock that evolution is a theory in crisis — and I can tell you from personal experience that they use that phrasing routinely — do you think they have in mind any of the esoteric points Dupre is discussing? Of course not. 
    He thinks the title of the essay should instead have been “New Developments Show Evolution is More Interesting Than We Thought” and I agree, so I made it the title of this linking blurb.

    Article: Evolution is Not in Crisis by Jason Rosenhouse, Scienceblogs.com

    Comments

    "It's all made-up nonsense anyways", said the idiot.

    Hank
    There's a reason a postmodernism generator exists on the Internet, and it fools so many people - and it isn't because of biology.
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    What percentage of the philosophers who work at major research universities do you think are "postmodernists" of any kind or even take postmodernism seriously at all?

    Equating contemporary philosophy with postmodernism is incredibly ignorant. I might as well equate science with creation science.

    Gerhard Adam
    I'm still not clear on why anyone cares what creationists think.  It's not as if they're ever going to be convinced, so other than the fact that they are an annoying lot ... what possible difference does it make?

    I, for one, don't particularly care to phrase every nuance or change in science with an eye to the political consequences that it might engender in people I consider to be nutcases anyway.  In fact, by paying attention to them, we are allowing them to determine the nature of the debate.  Science ends up saying things that it can't support, just to counter the claims of those that suggest that there must be some hidden piece of data in the gaps.

    This is no different than what we've been discussing in AGW, or GM foods.  It gets tiresome when one has to become a cheerleader for science lest one be perceived as opening a propagandist opening for pseudoscientists.  There is something fundamentally wrong when scientists feel like they can't say "I don't know" for fear that they've lost some political battle.

    Perhaps we just need to get over it, and ignore those that will never be on the side of science anyway.  Let them say what they will.  Who cares?  They will never produce anything worth considering anyway, and if they build a thousand creationist museums ... who cares?

    We need to stop letting the pseudoscience crowd set the agenda and dictate the terms of the conversation.  I need to be able to say ... "I Don't Know" and stop being apologetic about it.  If they don't get it, then so what, since they can't contribute anything useful to the conversation anyway.  The more honest scientists are, the greater support they'll garner, because it is only by playing to the pseudoscientific crowd that science truly does risk alienating those that would support it, but are becoming increasingly skeptical about claims that can't be backed up.
    Hank
    Historically anyway (I can't say what their contributor makeup is today) Scienceblogs only existed to talk about Republicans and religion so it wouldn't be a surprise to have them writing about creationists.   Someone did a keyword search over there one time and Jesus was the most-used keyword term then (I think).  I assume they are much more science-based now, since I rarely hear scientists ridicule them today.

    I agree with your point but you (and I and most of science) are 'outside' the sort of self-perpetuating maelstrom and hand-wringing created because a few cranks want to try and teach religion in some biology classes.  It's unfashionable and annoys militants in biology when I say it but this business about evolution teaching is not really a national issue the way vaccines and GMOs are - it just looks like one because media and blogging created it.  We have far less creationism than at any period in history and America did lots of great science - militants think religion sprang up about 1981 and science is doomed unless all scientists put a big red A(theism) on their foreheads.

    But Rosenhouse is not flying a cultural flag, he is flying a science one.  It's a good piece.
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    Exactly! Thank you.