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    What Is Natural Anyway?
    By Gerhard Adam | October 11th 2012 12:22 PM | 9 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    It is clear from many discussions that there is a split between things people consider to be "natural" versus those that are the products of technology, or man-made.  Obviously no one would consider a computer to be natural, nor would anyone suggest that a tree is man-made.  These differences are intuitive.

    However as our scientific knowledge has increased, and we are able to engage the fundamental mechanisms that were previously only within the domain of nature, this distinction is getting smaller.  With genetic manipulation, is the product man-made or still natural?  It obviously still has significantly natural components to it, and even its existence is still heavily dependent on its natural abilities for reproduction, and yet there's an element of "unnaturalness" about it.  It has been manipulated.

    This creates a kind of cognitive dissonance in people where they seek to distinguish between something that occurs in nature, versus something that has been produced by man.  As a result, we get catch phrases like "Frankenfood", to indicate not only that something was artificially "made", but also invoking the monster with its message about tampering with nature.

    Obviously many things that are natural are not beneficial; diseases, droughts, storms etc.  So, what is it about something being "natural" that is attractive while those things that are based on technology are not.

    I'm going to suggest that one clear difference comes from a fundamental distrust of technology, in that it can go wrong in ways that nature rarely does.  In other words, there is a sense of "fairness" in the natural world that doesn't single out particular individuals.  A hurricane pummels everyone equally.  A flood puts everyone underwater.  There are no exceptions.

    With technology, the implication is that there are exceptions.  Perfectly good technologies can go badly wrong because of human error.  Mistakes can occur.  In short, there's a sense that such problems are not "fair" and consequently there's more caution associated with such technologies.  Often this is accompanied by the knowledge that man-made disasters are frequently preventable.  They don't occur because we lack knowledge, they invariably occur because of mistakes, laziness, or incompetence.  As a result, these are perceived in a different light than "natural" events.

    As an example, consider the general attitude towards accidents.  Suppose that an individual gets into an automobile accident and kills a pedestrian.  First we generally look to assign blame or fault.  However, if this can't be done, then we may be quite content to simply call it "bad luck" or an "accident".

    In our example, let's imagine that the driver was intoxicated.  In general, we would no longer view this as an accident.  Blame can readily be assigned, and in many cases we would judge such an incident as being criminal, since the driver should be responsible for their actions in such a state.  

    However, let's imagine that our driver attempted to stop their vehicle but the brakes failed.  Now, we might consider whether the car had been properly maintained, or we might blame the manufacturer for failing to produce a reliable car.  Again, we can assign blame.

    In our third scenario, let's imagine that everyone is doing exactly as they should, but the pedestrian [at the most inopportune time] simply stumbles/trips and falls into the path of the car before any reasonable reaction to stop can occur.  In this case, we would likely label it an unfortunate circumstance and be content that no one was really at fault.  Similarly if the driver experienced something like a sudden heart attack, we would not assign blame for having struck a pedestrian.

    All three scenarios will produce the same result, and yet our reaction to each one is decidedly different based on our interpretation of how we expect individuals to act and the responsibility we assign them.  

    This is precisely what occurs when we consider the attitudinal differences between "natural" versus "man-made".

    There is no one to blame in nature, so there's a kind of comfort in knowing that your survival is not subject to someone else's decision, actions, or mood on any particular day (1).

    In cases like genetically modified (GM) foods, where genetic manipulation is producing different "natural" products, this feeling is exacerbated by the distrust that we have regarding blame for something that might go wrong.  In one way, regardless of the dangers present in nature, there is a sense that this is the environment in which we evolved and originated from.  Therefore, regardless of the hazards that may be present, it is something that we are specifically "built" to cope with.  

    Therefore when technology produces uncertainty, it is not surprising that many people will simply revert back to their comfort zone, arguing that our natural environment [for good or bad] is the one we are most comfortable in dealing with and that anything artificial is introducing another layer of risk that we simply don't wish to deal with.

    Unfortunately there's some element of truth to this view.  As an example, consider that medicine has clearly made phenomenal strides in treating disease and coupled with advances in surgery, have achieved results that are nothing short of miraculous.  Yet, one also has to consider that the likelihood of contracting a life-threatening infection has the highest probability of occurring in a hospital.  Nearly 100,000 people die every year in hospitals because of errors (2).  Again, the point is not to indict the medical profession, but to simply illustrate that man-made technologies will be viewed differently than the same events occurring naturally.  Ironically, people don't live in fear of the Bubonic plague, or even the influenza epidemic, however they will fear vaccines, or drugs.  Why?  Because there is little they can do about the former, and the latter has plenty of people to blame when it goes wrong, and unfortunately it does go wrong from time to time.

    Invariably, much of these views come down to simple trust.  Raw milk is perceived to be better, because we know the cow can't deceive us.  The more people involved, the more tampering can occur, and then we have to assess how much we trust the people "in the middle".  The more people become familiar with the methods of production, then the more "trust" they have for those in production.  This is one reason why people tend to favor organic foods, is because there is a perception that the processes involved in producing the food are more transparent than other production methods.  Whether this is true or not isn't particularly relevant, since establishing trust, relates directly to the perception that these goods are "better for you"; i.e. more natural.

    So regardless of how much scientific evidence is presented or denied by any particular side in this debate, the ultimate question is trust, and why it is either lost or gained.  People aren't fundamentally anti-scientific, and I suspect that most would clearly welcome a scientific perspective that they can trust.  However, decades of being manipulated by hype, advertisement, and simple salesmanship, has also convinced them of the importance of "caveat emptor".  

    Much like bungee jumping ... you can tell me how safe it is with as much proof as you like, but you won't get me to jump off a bridge.
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    (1) Consider that many people have a fundamental fear of flying simply because they are not in "control".  This is also not uncommon with many automobile drivers, that are distinctly uncomfortable being passengers.

    (2) I will resist the temptation to discuss malpractice insurance.

    Comments

    "Nature is that which existence insists upon."

    I've come to tentative conclusions that are different from most people's conclusions about "natural."

    Natural is that which accords to the physical laws of the universe. Human beings are products of such laws. Humans' inventions work in accordance with those laws (or else those inventions couldn't work, period). Therefore, anything that exists, in the wild, in human culture, is natural.

    People really mean "occurring in the wild" when they say "natural." But "natural" includes more than the wild.

    A beaver dam is natural. The pesticide pyrethrum is natural. A beehive is natural. A highway is natural. An atomic bomb is natural. All of them exist because they can exist. They are products of natural laws. An alien from another universe coming to our planet would see all these phenomena as natural products of our planet.

    That which is "unnatural" is that which doesn't exist, because it can't exist. Homeopathy, for example, is unnatural, because it can't exist. The same is true for human virgin births (by which I mean births without conceptions), and resurrections from the dead (from the really dead).

    There are things that exist in the wild, and things that exist in human culture, but they're both natural because the laws of nature allow them to exist.

    "Cultured" is a form of naturalness. My orchard, some would say, is unnatural, because non-native trees, grafted onto different root stocks, are being grown in a monoculture, in the very hostile climate of Maine, where apple trees did not evolve. But my orchard is natural--it is fully a natural product--but it is also cultured, which means it has been manipulated by another natural organism--me.

    People who try to break the products of the universe into "natural" and "unnatural," and then judge them accordingly, are huge fools.

    "Natural," like "safe," should be banned from one's vocabulary as a meaningless term, usually invoked by those with agendas.

    (When you're gay, and have had the "unnatural" argument thrown at you, you see right through the term. It is meaningless. The unnatural can't exist.)

    Gerhard Adam
    While I can understand your point, I don't believe that it conveys anything useful.  It simply seeks to define "unnatural" out of existence.
    That which is "unnatural" is that which doesn't exist, because it can't exist.
    While that may be your definition, that isn't the way in which the term is generally used, since you're attempting to make it synonymous with impossible.

    Arguing that something uses natural laws does not result in being able to claim that the product of those laws is, itself, a natural object.   I think I was quite specific in defining my use of the terms, so while you can choose to define terms however you like, but it appears that you're simply skirting the argument by claiming that the word has no meaning.
    People really mean "occurring in the wild" when they say "natural."
    Actually they don't.  Most people would readily acknowledge that their lawns are "natural", as well as their trees, although the idea of keeping a lawn mowed is "unnatural" since it doesn't occur in "nature".  In other words, the distinction is between the way the world is without humans and the way the world is with human intervention.

    Once could just as readily imagine such a conversation with beavers where they might argue that the "natural" world is one without beaver intervention, whereas dams represent a beaver-made world.  It is simply a means of separating out the species in question from how the world would be without them involved.

    Certainly "natural" is often conflated with indigenous to suggest whether something existed there prior to humans, or was introduced by humans. 

    Regarding your comment about gays [or any other group], then clearly it makes no sense to claim that an individual is "unnatural". 
    "In other words, the distinction is between the way the world is without humans and the way the world is with human intervention."

    It's a false distinction, though. There is no way to place "human intervention" outside the realm of the natural except by fiat. It's an arbitrary category that humans have created, wrongly, I believe, for humans and their cultures are as much a product of nature as beavers and their dams. Dawkins calls it "the extended phenotype."

    Not that I have any hope that people will open their eyes to this. They'll continue to fight their unnatural/natural chimeras.

    Gerhard Adam
    It is not a false distinction to view the world between man in it, or man out of it.  In fact, the problem is that you're insisting on using the world "natural" in your own definition, versus considering the way people use it.

    Clearly the world is different with no large dinosaurs in it, then when large dinosaurs were in it.  That is not a false distinction.
    There is no way to place "human intervention" outside the realm of the natural except by fiat.
    Of course that's what's being done, specifically to separate out those things that involve humans and those that don't.

    Your problem appears to simply be with the word "natural".  So, pick another word.  It doesn't matter, the point is that the distinction counts and that's what people are referring to when they use it.
    ...I believe, for humans and their cultures are as much a product of nature as beavers and their dams. Dawkins calls it "the extended phenotype".
    No one is arguing that humans aren't a product of nature [and Dawkins calls a lot of things by silly phrases].  The point is simply that there is a way to refer to the world without humans and to the world with humans.  The common choice is to apply the world "natural" to the former and "artificial" [or man-made, etc.] to the latter. 

    The deny this distinction is to make discussion impossible.  No one, and I suspect even you, would quarrel that artificial light is "natural" because it was produced by a creature born from nature.  There is a clear understanding about the difference between artificial and natural light.

    Similarly I expect that if your car breaks down you would not simply leave it sit in your driveway waiting to heal.  You recognize that this is an artificial, man-made piece of equipment that requires human intervention to continue operating.  You would not confuse it with "natural".

    So, it appears that your argument is purely semantic, so, again, I leave it up to you to decide what word you would prefer to fulfill the role I've described.
    I'd say another aspect of what makes something natural is whether we have co-evolved with it. We have (roughly) useful instincts for dealing with natural things, like fire or predators - unlike radiation or computer virsues.

    UvaE
    We have (roughly) useful instincts for dealing with natural things, like fire or predators - unlike radiation 


    It's not so simple as that. There's a bit of natural radiation in our bodies from a radioactive potassium isotope (40K). The carcinogenic and radioactive radon that sometimes accumulates in people's basements is also natural. There's no instinct there to protect us from this natural danger.  
    Gerhard Adam
    I think you're stretching the definition a bit in your example.  Radioactive radon is certain "natural", however having a basement clearly is not.  Therefore the closest analogy we would find is any accumulation of radon, perhaps in a cave, etc.

    So, in that respect it would hardly be considered part of a "natural instinct" in humans, since we tend not to live underground.

    If we stay with my suggested definition, that within this context, "natural" refers to the world without humans, then we can ask whether any event or phenomenon would occur without humans, or be capable of occurring without humans.  If not, then it is "artificial" [only in the sense that it occurs because of humans], whereas the other would be considered "natural".

    It is a bit awkward and clumsy use of terminology, but hopefully it helps us avoid semantic interpretation errors if we simply stick with these definitions.

    Again ... this is a completely arbitrary split in viewing the world, and is solely for the purposes of describing what we mean what we talk about "nature" or the "natural" world.  Clearly humans are also part of nature and what they do is also natural, however the terminology is a means of viewing the world with them or without them.  That's my take on what people mean when they use the term.  It distinguishes things that would occur in "nature" [i.e. without humans] versus those things that are a product of humans "technology", or "artificial".
    blue-green

    Yesterday's date was 10/11/12, “ten-eleven-twelve”. It had an interesting flow in this notation, however, it was not naturally significant. Maybe it's one of those arbitrary “symmetry breaking” things. There is little natural significance to Christmas and many other national holidays, except when they harken back to celestial alignments … or say, peach blossoms or a harvest festival.

    With all of the inherent fickleness in the sexual desires and performance in men and women, there is little that is necessary in a fertility festival …. Modern living styles and lifespans have made the ancient fertility rites less trustworthy compared to modern alternatives.

    For the ever increasing number of people not directly dependent on agriculture or not living in rural areas, there is little that is trustworthy concerning calendar dates or even the time of day. What was once natural has become unnatural.