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    Contrarian View: Science Standards In School Won't Help?
    By Hank Campbell | August 13th 2012 06:00 AM | 11 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
    I will tell you a secret. The loudest partisan progressives, some even in the science community, can find a way to hate anything if a Republican is involved.  So George Bush doubled NIH funding?  He still hated biology, we were told. No Child Left Behind improved scores for minorities every year it was in effect and girls achieved math parity with boys for the first time in history.  Who gets credit for that achievement?  Well, the bill was bipartisan, both Ted Kennedy And John Boehner signed off on it, but Bush was president so it sucked, according to partisans.

    Yet it worked, no matter what kooky progressives in science blogging choose to believe.  So much so, I argued that NCLB should be expanded to include science, not killed. But it's election season and President Obama needs the education union so he gutted it in 2011.  We can only dream about what might have been for students.

    What we get instead of obvious changes to improve education is the usual tired lament about how stupid American kids are and how only money can fix it - it isn't true.  In actuality, America is already second in the world in spending per capita and science literacy for adults has tripled since I was in college, which means people learn plenty about science, they just don't learn it in schools.

    Cameron English, writing at PolicyMic, takes that fact and pushes it to the next level.  He's in opposition to almost everyone (including me, though my take is different than Scientific American, which endorses the failed policy of putting more money into the bloated education bureaucracy, despite the fact that science teachers quit for reasons having nothing to do with money) but he has an interesting argument.
    Americans, especially young Americans, need to be more scientifically literate. This isn't up for debate. But getting them there won't happen in the classroom.
    He notes that Scientific American regards the politicization of science as a worry but I will note something he did not; they are myopic about it.  When the only two anti-science positions you are aware of are global warming and teaching evolution, you are out of touch with not only the world of science, but what decade it is. The left-wing anti-GM and anti-vaccine movements - and proponents of those skew more heavily left than anti-evolution and anti-climate science skew right - are far more dangerous to the world than if some crank in some local school district tries to say the world is 6,000 years old.
    The temptation to mandate that people be smarter will always be there. But the problem isn't that Americans lack access to sound science education. The problem, ironically enough, is that they've been trained by the scientific community to distrust science, and they pass that distrust down to their children. Until we improve the way science is communicated to the public, our science literacy problem won't be solved.
    America is also a skeptical culture by nature, and distrustful of authority. Americans left their countries and came here because they did not trust governments in their homelands; government denied them representation and freedom of religion. If Europeans believe everything they are told by elites, that's fine for Europe, but it is as pointless for resentful intellectuals to wish Americans were more European as it is to wish Europeans were Asian. It doesn't work that way.

    If people are not convinced, it isn't because Americans are stupid or their brains have somehow become a separate species (seriously, those are real arguments by progressive journalists trying to explain why some people don't agree with their pet positions), it is simply because the argument is not very good - or that scientists who let activists speak for science are losing the ability to be trusted guides for the public.

    Comments

    UvaE
    From the SciAm article you refer to:
    What do Massachusetts and Minnesota have in common? They each have science standards that set a high bar for what students are expected to learn at each grade level. Such standards form the scaffolding on which educators write curricula and teachers plan lessons, and many experts believe them to be closely linked with student achievement. 
    The problem is what's set on paper as "standards" and how they are actually interpreted and implemented are two different worlds. Both states also have average incomes that are above the national average...
    But I appreciate the point you're making in that social attitude towards science is more of a factor in learning than standards are.

    Coincidentally, about 30 minutes ago, I received an email from Montrealteachers4change, and there was a far more interesting article than the Scientific American one. Some of their main arguments that I agree with: ( my 2 cents in brackets)

    (1) On the whole, schools do not fail the top 60% of the economic spectrum, and in the ways schools do fail, nothing has changed in 100 years (in spite of all the money spent in reform attempts).

    (2) Reformers have amnesia and try things that have been done before. (They just try to justify their salaries and change the buzz words.)

    Hank
    Yes, we are in year 90 of an experiment that was supposed to create an elite but we keep having it spun as that education cares about all children. That was not the intent of the modern education system and it hasn't been the case.  Schools are one of few businesses where we seem okay throwing more money at the worst ones. 
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    Gerhard Adam
    Apologies to the anonymous poster whose comments I apparently deleted by accident.  Sorry ... I was trying to remove a duplicate post and probably "collided" with someone else that had already deleted one of them.

    Again ... I am sorry and feel free to repost if you wish.
    UvaE
    Confirmation. You collided with me. I was also trying to eliminate the duplicate post...but I see the author reposted his comment.
    Hank, your arrogance amazes me. You can clarify to us that Americans are sceptical (despite the outrageous heartland gain in "beliefs" rather than facts). And in the next line you let us know that we Europeans are shocking Pilgrim Persecutors! I have never been schooled by either a Pilgrim Father (whatever that may translate to in Modern UK) or a Pilgrim hater. I know of one person in my family ( I am Rob Thomas VI) who fled overseas due to "persecution". He went to Canada, as he had got a young lady pregnant and didn't intend to acknowledge the fact. If you look to history in your beautifully remodelled University of Oxford (in Georgia, or where ever), without travelling to Oxford, or any other place you claim to describe, then you are just spouting myth. May Zeus be with you in your fantasy.

    Hank
    Well, then, congratulations on being part of the 1% in olden days.  After the fall of Hussein's Iraq we also got teary stories in the New York Times about children whose lives were far worse - what they leave out is those kids were part of the ruling Baathist class so, yeah, 100,000 people had okay lives while the rest suffered.

    If your family was not part of the 1% (a VI on the end of your name says unlikely) but were too timid to stand up to the persecution or simply adopted the official religion, sorry about that.

    Basically, you think throwing money at education solves problems - which means you are far more indoctrinated and less skeptical than you try to imply.


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    Thanks for that, Hank. I had thought I was commenting on real views. My bad, it is obviously a comedy section. That I might hold religious views held by my ancestors would naturally deny an free will in the intervening centuries: not a godly thing. It might also suggest that I dislike the idea of automated cotton jigs and water powered mills. That also would be rather ridiculous and irrational. As to my not being one of the 1%: true enough, I am not American, but then my ancestors lived nowhere near any major ports or Boston (the random and strange origin of the PF). They had to deal with life as best they could in a comparatively undereducated and more importantly, impoverished area. Where would they have found the funds necessary to join such an Armada?
    But ultimately it really isn't about my ancestors, or yours. It really shouldn't matter how your great Aunty felt all those centuries ago: my psychological make-up has nothing to do with ancient relatives. To hark back on some "crusade" and try and join it belatedly is just retroactive, and in no way constructive. Next, I am sure you will personally blame me for slavery (the great great great grandson of a minister who died in poverty)

    Hank
    I'm no Jean Piaget, but don't they teach reading comprehension in grade school where you are from?  Who cares about religion?  If you want to revise history and claim religiously persecuted people did not leave Europe and come to America, go back to whatever crank sites you usually read that blames religion for everything.  We are in the world of reality here.

    Do you think spending more money will lead to a better education?  If so, explain how your beliefs conflict with the results showing it has not.
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    I will not argue about why people immigrated to the USA: I am sure there are stats on that. But to argue they all left due to oppressive governments is churlish. It was your second to last paragraph that really annoyed me. It generalises on 2 different continents! How dare you - without corroborative evidence? Naturally all the Africans came over to the US to escape slavery?!?
    Naturally I listen to my elites, and suplicate. I think your artical may have got too large. Chop the end off.

    Hank
    You instead contend that Europeans left Europe despite being really, really happy?  Okay, I give you points for originality but that is a tough case to make.  I mean, history and anthropology are subjective, so you are allowed to have an opinion, but usually they have some foundation in evidence.

    I can't stress enough that you need to research government persecution of non-official religions in Europe's past.  There is a reason separation of church and state was built into the US Constitution and that reason was not because Europe was doing it right.
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    Oh, back to religion? This is purely personal, but the odd-balls who left (and succeeded, as opposed to the several who didn't) ran away. They then inflicted that "minority view" on the native Americans. Those who stayed behind in England
    changed laws for everyone. Not just a few boatloads of runners.