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    And Another One Throws The Towel And Leaves Science
    By Sascha Vongehr | February 19th 2011 03:45 AM | 6 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Dr. Sascha Vongehr [风洒沙] studied phil/math/chem/phys in Germany, obtained a BSc in theoretical physics (electro-mag) & MSc (stringtheory)...

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    “Yesterday night I was in my office in the Department of Chemistry at the University of Cambridge packing my stuff, resolved to not go back to research again …”


    This sad story is another warning to all those enthusiastic about getting into science. One more outtake:

    “I know of people that have given crippled software to a colleague to sabotage his project. I’ve been violently attacked verbally for having dared talking with my supervisor of a project I was collaborating with, because she feared that I wanted to “steal” her credit. And I can’t blame her: she was “helped” by another postdoc when she first came in Cambridge, only to find all credit for her work taken by the nice and smiling guy who scammed her by “helping” her. There are endless horror stories like that. Everywhere. Now, do you want to work in a place full of insanely clever people who are also insanely cynical and determined to do everything to get on top of you? If so, you can do top level science.”



    It goes on with many quite accurate observations, although often the interpretation is maybe not something I would agree with. Anyway, here is something that I have to add.


    One cannot stress this enough: If you are somewhere in the middle of the science hierarchy doing a project you do not like or some such, get the hell out of there right now! Today! Either you have the intelligence and determination to come up with or get into a better project or you are wrong there all together and need to get out and be useful in the real world.


    See, here is how I do it: There is almost not a single day that I have been anywhere in science, be it in theory, experiment, as a student, teaching, whatever, that I have not enjoyed the project I was doing and getting more out of it than I put in, in whatever strange way (reading what I am interested in anyways, cooking up 'research chemicals' in my lab, whatever). If I did not like a project, I convinced supervisors of better ways. If they did not appreciate it, I went somewhere else.


    And yes, I am poor (still a rich white guy though) and maybe have no further position next year, but see, that is no problem as long as you know what life is all about and you can at least claim not to have ‘worked’ for a single day for almost 40 years and even have gotten some money for it. I would have done it for free, too, seriously! Every single day especially these days, I do what interests me and I do not care much about anything else.


    If you cannot claim similar, if you can already foresee that in a few years you may likely have to say something like “I wasted my whole youth and intellectual peak, did not have much fun and a lot of pain and now I have nothing for it to show but age and those who got me into this looking down upon me as a loser or even traitor”, if this is your situation instead, GET OUT OF SCIENCE NOW.


    The scientific community, unlike politics, Hollywood, or straight business or law, successfully fools people into projecting a peaceful, benevolent image, an atmosphere of acceptance by intelligent, advanced, progressive people who surely know better than to sour up each others lives. Same deception with science blogging communities by the way.


    Guys, wake up, the truth is almost the opposite! This is all straight hustle, straight business, straight ripping each other off, being mean, supporting ‘friends’ even if they are wrong, pretending to be something better, elitism, exploitation, … . Do not sacrifice yourself on other people’s altars. Some of your future branches will have a stroke tomorrow. Do the right thing TODAY!


    Good luck.


    Oh – as I am at it, here another story I found just today about something actually common:

    Plagiarism by leaders in science and academia

    It does relate to the story, does it not?

    Comments

    rholley
    Should The Prince be a required module for all science students?

    Robert H. Olley Quondam Physics Department University of Reading England
    SynapticNulship
    I don't think getting out of science is the ideal solution.  It would be better to change projects AND balance your academic/professional work with personal so-called "life" that device-random claims to have lost.

    In certain engineering circles we have the concept of "work hard, play hard."  You can't have the work hard without the play hard.  We also have the concept of "go big or go home"--and if you can't go big than it might be time to switch projects.
    vongehr

    That is what I said, go change the project if you can. Totally agree! The "work hard, play hard" mentality is mostly macho talk. Adding yet more stress to be the hard one all around does not benefit a long or happy life. Moreover, if it is “go big or go home” like stuff, we should tell people this clearly before they enter the game. What science bloggers do mostly now is cheer-leading to draw the masses in without letting them see the fine print. They play the “Profzi scheme” hoping to exploit the dumb masses.

    David Yerle
    I started a phd in QFT and, after a year, did exactly what you just suggested. Not only was I not happy doing tiresome calculations for another decimal figure, but I had the usual feeling people get after working in QFT for a while: this is ugly, it cannot be the final say and I don't want to spend the rest of my life studying it. Well, I guess some people must like QFT. I wasn't one of them.
    Some of my friends also started phds. In Spain I think they are even more abusive than everywhere else. Today, most of them have quit before finishing (and after being exploited for years and being treated as slaves, even called "slaves" to their faces) or are on the verge of doing so, after having to strive in an environment full of flatterers and fakes.
    It's a really depressing thought, though. Maybe I'm biased, but I think some of them had real talent. It's sad when the university itself systematically steps on their talented youth.
    David Yerle
    vongehr
    this is ugly, it cannot be the final say
    That is exactly why I left string theory - well, additionally it was clear after the Maldacena duality business there is no new string revolution to be expected anymore.
    Congratulations to having the balls to jump into new waters. I do this about every seven years or so - keeps the brain from rusting in.
    Maybe I'm biased, but I think some of them had real talent. It's sad when the university itself systematically steps on their talented youth
    It is not bias and they had talent. The "systematically" you mention is understood from a sociological, systemic point of view. To step on unwanted talent is an important function that universities co-evolved for.
    Sukumar
    Changing fields every once in a while is a good way to keep one's mind fresh. You pay a toll, however, in that you are not regarded as one of the "towering giants" in the field. You will likely never rule the top of your little pyramid. You should be reconciled to this and be prepared that, say, 20 years hence, you will still not regret this decision. The only way this can work is if you take satisfaction in the moment. It is, however, only a small minority of scientists who can do this and thus it is not a course I would recommend for everyone. The vast majority of "career-minded" scientists are still doing more or less the same thing they were doing in their youth, often minor adaptations of what they learnt during their Ph.D.
    Sukumar