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By Rycharde Manne | February 24th 2010 08:56 PM | 5 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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In 2008, Sam Harris posted an online survey seeking the opinions of Christians and atheists on a wide variety of topics. The real aim was to design the survey for their subsequent laboratory research with properly phrased questions that would either polarize the two camps or show common ground. However, the raw data does show a few interesting things.

The section on religious beliefs has fairly predictable differences between atheists and Christians and merely illustrates that some of the questions are better phrased than others. To get the best results in the subsequent fMRI experiment requires that the subjects respond to clear and unambiguous statements.

However, the section on psychological beliefs - largely about oneself and one's social relationships - shows a large degree of commonality. Statements such as "I am a very analytical person", "I very rarely tell a lie", "I am a compassionate person" and so on, have a very similar distribution of answers between the believer and non-believers. The only statements that show any significant differences are those where an external doctrine can be felt edging its way in, such as,"I can live my life any way I want to." But on the whole, personal psychology and morality seem to have little to do with being either a believer or non-believer. And Christians love to claim that atheists have no morals?!

However, some huge differences start to emerge again in the section looking at social attitudes. Politically, the Christians come across as largely conservative, with the atheists predominantly liberal. But again, those statements that are purely personal show a common response, but replies to political and scientific questions brought religious doctrines back to the fore.

One amusing thing, though,"I am very sensitive to the suffering of other people" showed common agreement, and yet "Wives should honour their husbands as the head of the family" got overwhelming support from the Christians and huge thumbs down from the atheists. Perhaps being in a bad relationship doesn't count as suffering.

As I said, the real aim of this online survey was to avoid using ambiguous statements in the subsequent study on how the brain looks in states of belief and disbelief. Interesting that both sides look largely human as individuals yet poles apart on group issues. The tyranny of group-think.




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People for some odd reason who are not Christians always miss interpenetrate "Wives should honor their husbands as the head of the family." They always think that this statement tells wives they have to be slaves under the husbands and do his bidding and for this reason the atheist think that the Christian wives live in a horrible relationship. This is not at all what the passage is about. When this is taught and studied in churches, ministry colleges, etc, the meaning comes out as that the wife must respect him and be selfless, which is a good thing. Who doesn't want to be respected? BUT if read more and study it you will find that another passage tells the husband he actually has do the same thing by being Christ like (selfless) with agape love. It also says that he has soul responsibility of the marriage and how it goes within the relationship and the relationship's spiritual growth. He is the one who is accountable for his marriage on judgment day. So if the marriage goes to craps he's accountable for it. Hence why being head of the house hold is actually kind of a burden. Not a "me Tarzan you Jane" kind of deal.

On a side random note: The man may be the head but the woman is the neck and she can turn the head when she pleases.

rholley
Keep up the good work, Anonymous.

But please use a nickname so that we can keep track of which "Anonymous" we're talking with.

Robert H. Olley
Physics Department
University of Reading
England

logicman
The man may be the head but the woman is the neck and she can turn the head when she pleases.

Nicely put!

I honestly don't see a difference between the short version of the statement and your longer explaination of it.

Who doesn't want to be respected indeed, but the man being responsible for the marriage and spiritual stuff, is not respectful of the wife.

And neither the short nor long version allow the woman to be a partner in the marriage, and it pretty much doesn't allow for marriages where the woman makes more money than the husband or single parent families of either gender adult.

rholley
While we’re into “woman palaver”, here’s something that I would like Chinese readers to confirm or refute.

 

These two Chinese characters correspond to the expression “jù nèi”, which is the literary expression for hen-pecked.  The first character means “fear” or “dread” – the heart radical on the left indicates that this means something to do with the emotions, while the author of the original article notes the similarity to the English expression “chicken” meaning “cowardly”.  The right hand one means “inner”, because in traditional Chinese society the woman was supposed to stay at home while the man travelled outside.
 
The writer then went on to talk about Jezebel, and presented King Ahab as an example of a hen-pecked husband.
 


Robert H. Olley
Physics Department
University of Reading
England

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