Why Religion And Science Rarely Mix Well
    By Hank Campbell | September 24th 2009 06:57 PM | 2 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    I'm not one of the more fundamentalist types in the broad science community who had any issue with Francis Collins leading the NIH.   His credentials are impeccable and the same people who were backflipping with glee over Stephen Chu as Energy Secretary despite his weird militancy about global warming seemed to mind that Collins liked to go to church.   Not an issue for me, I was more worried about his overselling of personalized medicine.

    If anything, I think Collins being an important science figure despite personal beliefs contrarian to 60% of scientists is a real endorsement of tolerance and diversity - something everyone claims to want , though most often they mean only for people they like.

    Young people, and those with too much time on their hands, want to live in important times so they exaggerate the impact of minor things, like a religious Collins working for Obama, a guy who wasn't sure vaccines don't cause autism even last year - Collins is obviously only going to add to that kind of knowledge base.

    There's no question a fundamentalist culture (religious or atheist) is a detriment to science - but we don't live in one, not even close; sorry, neo-atheists who think we are all a step away from forced Bible readings, and religious cranks who think Obama will institute forced gay porn zones.

    But some people do live in a fundamentalist society and here is an example of it going to a weird place; namely a scientist claiming that Neil Armstrong proved that Mecca was the actual center of the world - and also that radiation emits from it, according to something they saw on the Web one time.   


    Gerhard Adam

    This is a map showing the political situation before the 2004 election (and before the rapture).  While the map below shows the predicted changes in the political environment after the rapture.  Now this is something to be considered!

    I guess if we can't have universal healthcare at this point, then it will never come.

    Source for the maps:
    Mundus vult decipi
    The guy in the video proves once again that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.  In fact the only thing that he said that could possibly be true is that the black stone it is some kind of a meteorite.  
    It has been suggested that the Black Stone may be a glass fragment from the impact of a fragmented meteorite some 6,000 years ago at Wabar, a site in the Rub' al Khali desert some 1,100 km east of Mecca. The craters at Wabar are notable for the presence of blocks of silica glass, fused by the heat of the impact and impregnated by beads of nickel-iron alloy from the meteorite (most of which was destroyed in the impact).  (Alex Bevan, John De Laeter, Meteorites: A Journey Through Space and Time, pp. 14-15. UNSW Press, 2002. ISBN 0-86840-490-X) via Wikipedia but I heard this other places before.
    That said...  
    I just wonder if I could prove that Ottumwa Iowa or the former cite of Werowocomoco, the long abandoned capital of the Powhattan empire, also emanates a radiation and hence is the "center of the world".  After all almost everything emits some low level radiation.

    "Center of the world"-Something to know about many old world muslims (and others from the other side). 

    Many of them thought they know darn well the world is not flat, physically, in terms of religions and world view they don't.  Many well educated old world Muslims, who have never been here, say things like that all the time.  They talk of how in Islam all prophetess are respected...  According to tradition about 122000 sent to all cultures of the world, yet they ignore the people of this side of the world, the natives and our cultures and our original religions now lost.  Surely prophets of people so different must have been false. :-?  Needless to say for me trips to the mosque while fullfilling on one level leave something to be desired on another level for one with my first name, Hontas. 

    Europeans, and Asian's  are not so different they just don't justify their provincial attitudes with religion any more.   
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