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    Women Have Won - And Men Are In Trouble
    By Hank Campbell | October 9th 2011 10:43 AM | 16 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    In academia, the many, many advancements of women are not enough and so they are increasingly forced to massage statistics to make it look like they are oppressed, underpaid, blocked out of the hard sciences, etc.

    In reality, women have it pretty good. Maybe even great. Men, as a special interest group, basically stink at being a special interest group because they were historically always the interest group, no 'special' needed.

    Not any more. They (well, we, I suppose) need to learn.   We're already unable to enter the social sciences and education and too many fields to count because of stereotype threat and gender bias and it is killing higher education participation. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees but today women get more college degrees than men by almost 3 to 2.  Men who can't go into a hard science because the lack the ability can't go anywhere unless they have the mental strength to look around a classroom and see no other men - it's darn hard to go to school if you don't have equal gender representation and that gender intimidation will start to creep down to students in K-12 levels also, since 70% of educators there are women and young  males will have even fewer role models in their formative years.

    Male unemployment is at 20%, the highest ever, because three quarters of the 8 million jobs lost in the recession were lost by men, clearly prejudice against men, and women are soon to take over the majority of the highest paid and most powerful occupations, where men have traditionally ruled.

    Why did this happen?  Some of it seems obvious.   In a modern service economy world where thinking has taken the place of physical ability, women can compete without a genetic qualification or size and the evolutionary psychology contention that we have imprinted biological imperatives which guide men and women into different jobs has been shown, like most evolutionary psychology, to be made up nonsense.   The courts have decided you don't even need a penis to be a man any more.   The odds look bleak, folks.

    The scales have simply tipped, even when it comes to procreation. In society, if she wants the baby, she gets to have the baby, and men will pay - there is no choice for men other than going to jail if a man doesn't want to pay for a baby he did not want to have.  Maybe men need their own pro-choice movement. Scientifically, women may not even need men for procreation much longer.

    Maybe women thought they wanted it the way it is now but they don't seem to like it.  The top complaint of young American women, says CNN columnist Bill Bennett, is that modern American men never grow up, their adolescence is interminable.  Well, young men no longer have to grow up.  The out-of-wedlock birthrate is more than 40% in America.  It used to be that men got married and had to provide for a family.  They had to grow up.

    Not any more. 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games each day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys do.  Men no longer have to 'man up' and so they don't.

    That's not a complaint, more like an observation. Playing video games all day would rule, I was clearly born in the wrong generation.   Women running the world may also make it a nicer place.  How many wars were started by women?  It's hard to think of one since Helen of Troy and even that was just due to her being awesome, she had no ships of her own and men started all the Trojan War fuss.   St. Joan of Arc also did something no man ever did - namely won a war for the French.

    Bennett contends it is isn't just work and family encroachment that are to blame, but also a decline in religion.  He cites Gallup polls stating 39% of men attend church regularly, compared to 47% of women, but the priesthood is one of the few jobs women haven't taken from men, so it seems like men would gravitate toward churches if that made a difference.

    If it isn't religion, maybe it is just cultural evolution.  Heck, a week ago a student won Homecoming Queen and then kicked the game-winning field goal for the school's football team.  How many men can claim that?

    Brianna Amit

    I. for one, look forward to benevolent rule by our new XX chromosome overlords.

    Comments

    Gerhard Adam
    How many wars were started by women?  It's hard to think of one ...
    Falkland Islands ... just saying ...
    Mundus vult decipi
    Hank
    Argentina started that, Maggs just finished it.
    Women running the world may also make it a nicer place.  How many wars were started by women?
    I hope you're right, but we won't know for certain until enough women are placed in such positions. Power may corrupt both sexes equally, for all we know.

    And although it may be an unfair example because of the possible fear factor in conventional male-dominated relationships, it is still unfortunate that behind every tyrant there is usually a woman who sleeps with him, despite how he acts towards others.
    Hank
    behind every tyrant there is usually a woman who sleeps with him, despite how he acts towards others
    That's just your white male privilege finding a way to blame women all over again.  :)
    Oh look, Hank Campbell is talking again. And it's the same regressive conservative Faux News spiel he always talks about.

    vongehr
    Why did this happen?  Some of it seems obvious.   In a modern service economy world ...
    There is a much more sinister reason: Macro evolution needs sub-units (cells) who do not think for themselves but are just happy performing, regardless what the system is up to. Women perform better in totalitarian systems, they more easily rationalize their own role inside such monsters. That women are now evolutionary selected to be more successful in the information age (read: as a new fastest evolutionary stratum emerges in form of for example memetic evolution in cyberspace) may be no more than the inevitable onset of humankind turning into a beehive like thing. Especially them taking over science is basically the onset of the new, final dark ages.
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Women perform better in totalitarian systems, they more easily rationalize their own role inside such monsters.
    Really? Do you have any scientific evidence for this? Maybe you are talking about those women in totalitarian systems who have been forced to have abortions and/or be sterilized or who have forcibly had their clitoris removed or who have seen other women being stoned to death or whipped for minor transgressions, like uncovering their faces or driving cars, or anything else that the men in the same totalitarian system are permitted to do? I would say that those totalitarian systems are representative of the dark ages that have existed for a long time but i can understand how men might feel threatened by the current situation that Hank is reporting.
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    @Sascha Yes! Exactly!!1! Women are like bees, they *cannot* think for themselves, only follow the pheromone-based orders of their queens. Identifying memetic evolution in cyberspace is correct. All those 'herp derp' memes doing the rounds are designed to CONTROL MEN. Don't get me started on 'Y U NO' memes.

    You maybe interested in the new scientific research I am conducting, using tin foil hats with nasal guards to protect the minds (and noses!) of helpless men against the sustained attack of hive mind women. I can only hope my work will at least delay the onset of this final dark age that you have so accurately predicted. Fight the good fight, Sascha! Without men like you, we would have been enslaved at the yoke of pussy power many years ago.

    What are the job statistics that you are using to back these claims up?

    Do any of them include the lost manufacturing jobs where men have historically been over represented? Do any of them include the increases in lower paying service sector jobs where women have historically been over represented?

    Your assertions MIGHT be true, but if so, it's quite possible that they have more to do with the areas where losses / gains have occurred and the representation of the sexes in those sectors.

    Try coming up with real data instead of the airy wave of the hand that you seem to believe confers TRUTH to your every utterance.

    SynapticNulship
    Although it seems like there are a lot of spineless man-boys everywhere, I wouldn't depend on a shady CNN editorial which assumes that "work, marriage, and religion" are "founding virtues" to defend that claim. Prove that playing video games has any cause or even correlation with being jobless and/or weak-kneed for 18-34 years olds...I would expect it to be the opposite since you have to have a job in order to buy video game hardware/software...

    He cites Gallup polls stating 39% of men attend church regularly, compared to 47% of women,
    I would consider that a win for men. I would also think that church prolongs adolescence, at least mentally, not the other way around.
    Hank
    I agree, but CNN did not invent that stat, it was polling data made popular in “Odyssey Years” by David Brooks.  Are polls inaccurate?  I generally regard them as useless but we can't allow them to be commonly used for everything else and not use them in this case.  Obviously if someone is taking two pieces of data and correlating them it is sort of dumb - I can deny there is an 'Arab Spring' by showing the rise of the price of steel in the Mid-East and contend they are rioting over steel prices if that is the only context I use.

    Bennett is the only one who adds in religion, maybe it is a pet cause of his, and I dismissed it as well, since the numbers basically show the opposite of his point. It may be that younger men are just part of a trend that resents having all of the responsibility (and all of the blame) shoveled on them and less of the authority.  Maybe video games, war, etc., are a throwback to an earlier pioneering time before men were marginalized - hard to blame young guys for that.  Clearly the success of Playboy starting in the 1950s, Bennett's generation if his picture is accurate, was a sign that men were no longer content being told to be married with kids by 25, so it isn't recent.

    Some of the other arguments made were a little sillier - jobs getting cut were 'overrepresented' anyway, for example, and comparing me to Fox News.  Three days ago Fox News was calling me a liberal so it just shows kooks on the fringes simply dislike people in the middle.
    MikeCrow
    Three days ago Fox News was calling me a liberal so it just shows kooks on the fringes simply dislike people in the middle.

    It's just so damn hard figuring out which side they're on!
    Never is a long time.
    I think your right Hank ,it is men who are really behind all this women's emancipation and domination in the workplace .It takes us back to our tribal roots where the women did all the practical work and the men spent all day philosophising and hypothesising.Silly women haven't cottened on yet ,didn't know when they were onto a good thing being just a housewife and mother at home.

    >Men who can't go into a hard science because the lack the ability can't go anywhere unless they have the mental >strength to look around a classroom and see no other men - it's darn hard to go to school if you don't have equal >gender representation and that gender intimidation will start to creep down to students in K-12 levels also, since 70% >of educators there are women and young males will have even fewer role models in their formative years.

    Ha ha ha - so it's tough to go to school if you don't see any other folks your gender and it's hard if there's isn't equal gender representation. Welcome to being a WOMAN in engineering and math for the entire past and present. As an early career Engineering/Mathematics academic - welcome to my life!

    Very few women get undergraduate degrees in engineering..but it drops off even more at the higher levels.
    Right now, 14% of all PhD's are earned by women in my field of Engineering.
    Yet faculty positions for women are at around 8%. (Yeah, women have it made - umm sure - which statistics lead to that conclusion??) I had a school say to me: "We have too many women -we're at 20%."

    So sick of men saying stupid things like your comments above. *I* went into the hard sciences even when I had to walk into a room where there were no female faces. I never cared. There continue to be few female faces in many of the hard sciences. Yet men think women are getting jobs due to being women. Ha ha ha.

    So why suddenly are men whining!?? They are still ahead statistically in many fields (and still WELL AHEAD at the top tier industry jobs and research positions and faculty position)... So now they want a pity party and to complain that it's hard to be adrift in a sea of female faces in a classroom. Too freaking much.

    I have learned in classrooms where I am the only white person. I have learned where I am the only woman. I thought what counted was my brain and my hard work.

    Hank
    I have learned in classrooms where I am the only white person. I have learned where I am the only woman. I thought what counted was my brain and my hard work.
    No one is whining, it is just statistical fact. That business about one gender that is paralyzed if they walk into a class that has few of them was obviously women, not men - and the claim was made by women, not men.  Sociologists (also 70% women) invented stereotype threat and other fuzzy unquantifiable concepts to account for why women do not go into more math-heavy subjects; supposedly women are so mentally fragile (to sociologists) that if they walk into a class full of men, they will worry the men will think they are no good in math and that nervousness will make them no good at math.

    It's silly and insulting, I know, but that is sociology.  Now, women are 48% of math undergrads, hardly unrepresented, yet still much less at the highest levels. Is that sexism?  Well, no, it is that men were not fired en masse to make way for women. When it comes to faculty and tenure track jobs in the last decade, there is no difference in gender.  What is odd is that there have been no calls for more representation for men in the social sciences or education - there are zero dollars spent on outreach programs to encourage men.  Apparently if women don't go into a field, it is hostility toward them but if men don't go into a field, it is 'choice'.  Maybe women are just genetically nicer?  What do you think?

    P.S. If representation at the PhD and faculty stage is really a concern, we should be focusing on handicapped people.  160K freshmen a year have a disability yet at the higher levels of academia, only 3% are. That is obviously far lower than women in any field any even lower than *gasp* Republicans, at 6%.   
    Both sexes have fear and ego because we aren't a gender we are consciousness. Women tend to manipulate their fears wearas men tend to try and destroy their fears. So all of this arguing over who is better is an illogical argument and unfair for both sides to begin with.

    Furthermore, sex, being the main motivating factor for a male, is now readily available without the constraints of a commitment which greatly hinders a "drive" for anything males have traditionally pursued to either impress or provide for a woman and consequently, a family. Personally, I love this change. You can have a bum job and pursue any one interest without a family or woman to support. Especially considering the fact that there are 7 billion people in the world, having children seems to be a little irresponsible.

    I see these trends as an encouraging step towards true equality. Instead of bickering about whose better, we should hope that our future is towards evolving a more loving and low entropy environment both consciously and physically.