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    Black Hole Duality: Not Noticing Crashing With Light Speed
    By Sascha Vongehr | October 9th 2010 07:08 AM | 4 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Dr. Sascha Vongehr [风洒沙] studied phil/math/chem/phys in Germany, obtained a BSc in theoretical physics (electro-mag) & MSc (stringtheory)...

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    Today (and the next time in this series on duality), I explain the most interesting insight that I have gotten from string theory about black holes.

    String theory may not be the correct theory of quantum gravity, nor has it modeled any usual black holes yet. Nevertheless, I will neglect these issues and concentrate on the core insight, which is here illustrated best with string theory, although it is not dependent on it. The core insight is one about duality and very similar to what I introduced there. It is less general but very intuitive. I recommend carefully considering this picture, as it makes many knotty questions about duality, general relativity, black holes and so on obsolete.

    Duality tells us that nature itself has not got a certain number of dimensions and suchlike, because the ultimate theory may have several mutually dual descriptions that each use different numbers of dimensions.

    The black hole example will show that something exactly analogue holds for the description of the event horizon of a black hole and something very similar for the singularity in a black hole as it is described by general relativity. Again a disclaimer: I neglect the fact that real astronomical black holes may be different from the predictions of general relativity.

    The usual description of falling into a so called Schwarzschild black hole of general relativity is as follows: You are attracted by the black hole and pass through the event horizon, after which you cannot possibly escape anymore, and this means that you will get closer and closer to a so called space-time singularity, in whose presence you will be destroyed. Near the singularity, gravity will pull very differently on different locations in your body.


    It will pull you apart and at some point even strip the electrons out of your atoms, and so on. Remember, this is the very basics and you need to look elsewhere for more technical descriptions. It is of course much more involved than I write it here. For example, the singularity is not in the middle of the black hole, but always in the future, and so on. But today, the simple description suffices; we do not need to concern us with the details.

    The important fact to remember: If the black hole is large enough, you do not feel uncomfortable at all falling into the black hole. Falling into the black hole is defined by passing the event horizon, the point of no return, where the velocity you would need in order to escape is larger than the velocity of light. You are trapped, but as long as you do not try to escape, you may not notice anything unusual for quite a while. For example, the black hole Sagittarius A* in the center of our galaxy is about a million times more massive than the sun. After passing its event horizon, an object would have up to maximally 20.05 seconds (my own calculation) before being destroyed by the singularity. The exact time depends on the initial velocity outside of the black hole. There are super massive black holes that are another thousand times more massive, and when falling into those, general relativity predicts that one may live for a whole day inside the black hole before noticing any discomfort.

    However, here is a totally different, string theory inspired description, that seems utterly incompatible with what I just explained about the traditional general relativistic description: You are made out of strings. Outside of the black hole, you are attracted to the black hole by the exchange of closed strings with the black hole’s event horizon. The black hole actually is nothing but a surface at the event horizon; the black hole is the event horizon. If you get very close to the event horizon, closed string loops do not anymore fit between you and the event horizon. You are now not anymore attracted by gravity – oh no: You are now glued to the event horizon by strings that attach at the event horizon. And then your own strings out of which you exist attach with their ends to the event horizon. And your strings spread out all over the event horizon, and this is why you can never again get away from it.

    You have hit the event horizon, but what do you feel? Nothing unusual! In fact, the holographic description of the universe is two dimensional anyways. You have been two dimensional before, namely as described on the outside boundary around the universe,

    and now you are still two dimensional on the surface of the black hole, too. Again, the descriptions are dual, i.e. absolutely indistinguishable to the observer, and so the observer feels again nothing unusual at all while its strings crash against the event horizon with the speed of light.

    So, here we have dual descriptions again. They are totally different yet also the exact equivalent in terms of predicted observations. They are not just relative to different observers, like inside and outside of the black hole. We have here only one observer! As I wrote already about the whole universe: “There is no difference between the descriptions. Being on the surface or being inside, these totally different situations are the exact same situation!”

    Straw-man: “Fine, but even if the observations of the observer at the event horizon are the same, surely, once she hits the singularity, she knows the difference!”

    Yes, and because this is yet another great insight, namely that event horizon and singularity are both in the dual models although the dual ones have no singularity, that’s why I will discuss the singularity separately the next time.

    Comments to the previous post in this series taught me that confusion about the following point may be quite common: As observed from the outside, the person falling into the black hole seems to be stuck on the event horizon, which is because of time dilation and red shift relative to the outside observer. This is a different issue and it is not the same or even closely related to what I described above. I described what the one who falls into the black hole observes. Another observer outside of the black hole will never even observe the falling person reaching the event horizon.

    The outside/inside observer issue and their different descriptions is called “complementarity”, but my posts are stressing the “duality” aspect of the different descriptions that are possible even for any single observer.

    Comments

    If I throw my enemy into a black hole then how long do I have to wait until he gets pulled apart and will it be slow enough so that I can witness it?

    vongehr
    The time available inside the BH increases linearly with the mass of the BH. It is maximized if you try to let the enemy fall from a position hoovering at rest just above the event horizon. However, you cannot witness it. You should take a small black hole that pulls your enemy apart already outside of the event horizon. This way it is more satisfying as you can observe it and it takes as long as you wish, for added suffering if desired, as long as you hold on to one end of the enemy.
    Won't one be vaporized by the overheated gas and other matter spiraling into the black hole way before reaching the event horizon? (I know it's rather irrelevant to the point of the article, but still made me wonder...)

    I don't really know much about science but i was thinking about black holes and there purpose and i thought everything that is a live and living has some sort of way it disposes waste and if all our stars in our galaxy are light bulbs if you may then could this black hole in the middle of our galaxy be a waste disposal disposing of all the nuclear waste or pollution or what ever you want to call it.?