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    How Mainstream Is Science?
    By Hank Campbell | April 23rd 2010 04:16 PM | 21 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    I get asked a lot about Science 2.0® and why I chose to start something like ScientificBlogging.com, because science is such a niche.   Is it?  65 million people respond to surveys that they are interested in science. Since there are just over 300 million people in the US and 10% of those can't read due to age or infirmity, that means almost 25% of America alone considers themselves science fans.

    I've heard scientists lament that the public is somewhat dumb and they'll cite statistics on whatever cultural issue they want to complain about and map results to their gripe but I say just the opposite; I have been stunned by how much more science people know than when I was younger - but they filter it through their politics.   So if someone says global warming is economically motivated rather than scientifically, you can bet it's a Republican and you will usually be right.  If someone says the dispute about causes of global warming is funded by Exxon, you can bet it's a Democrat and you will usually be right.

    Insert evolution understanding or whatever cultural worry you want and somewhere out there a pundit is generating pageviews getting people to rant about it.  In some sense, it's because scientists don't think very much of the public, though the public certainly respects scientists.

    In another sense it may be that scientists' view is more narrow than someone like me, who has to straddle a few worlds - I am more gameshow host than scientist but still likely to be the smartest guy in every room I enter.



    The public respects smart people but how mainstream cool is science?  Pretty mainstream, I argue.   David Sloan believes that because science does not have fans the way sports does, it is not mainstream, and he could find an argument in the mass media, where budgets for science journalism have been eliminated, unlike sports.   But budgets are not being cut because fewer people read science, they are being cut because people can instead get it from people who know what they are talking about - like writers here.  You don't have to have 500 homeruns to write on baseball but a smart audience wants experts in science.

    Sloan uses as an analogy the television drama "Lost", where a new person can literally be lost if they start watching now, and compares that to science comprehension.  And it's a good analogy.  Someone could do a synopsis (1) of "Lost" but it would be pointless because there is too much to know and so it goes with science; it's hard to do a synopsis of string theory or dark energy because it sounds made up unless you are paid to believe it.  Science journalists can be that trusted guide, he says, but that is a different matter than what I want to discuss, which is whether or not science is part of mainstream culture today.

    Is science as mainstream as sports?  Not directly, but sports is something anyone can appreciate - for $50 I can take my kid to see a basketball game and something meaningful will occur in 3 hours.   Not so with science but sports has dedicated television programming as does science.  Science has more magazines than sports does.

    Rolex Milgauss
    Science is so mainstream scientists even have their own Rolex watch - the Milgauss, named such because it is resistant to a magnetic flux density of 1,000 gauss, so it can survive in reasonable magnetic environments.   And it's advertised on the back of  Esquire magazine, which every scientist reads, it seems.  Cost: only $6,200, so clearly a price point that is attractive to the average researcher.  Or get a knock-off for $98.

    And politics has taken notice also.  Science had election-year clout despite the vast majority of scientists being Democrats.  ScienceDebate2008 at least got answers from both candidates on science positions, something that was never an important issue for office-seekers before.   Hillary Clinton talking about her favorite baseball team was just fluff but people wanted to know where McCain and Obama stood on science issues of the upcoming decade - except ScienceDebate did not ask about evolution or vaccines and autism, and we know both candidates failed on that second one.

    It isn't just in the US political climate that science is taking center stage.  In the recent UK election campaign there was a debate called "Science and the General Election 2010" and both sides were falling all over themselves to talk about how much they supported science and BBC journalist Susan Watts, who chaired the discussion said, "In the 15 years or so that I've been covering science on Newsnight, I've never felt such a level of public interest in science."

    That's a pretty solid endorsement from a media person at a time when many are cynical about science understanding.

    Casual science fans have talked to me at any number of events and laid out data I am surprised they know.   Actress Christine Baranski peppered me for 20 minutes at the World Science Festival with a dizzying amount of facts regarding the science of food production.

    Bloggy and Christine Baranski
    Bloggy with Christine Baranski.  Unlike in politics, actors who get involved in science outreach actually know what they are talking about.

    And can you name a series on television that stars an athlete?  Even football, the most popular sport in the world, only has a show about their wives, not the players themselves.

    But scientists have a show about them.  Pretty accurate too, as this clip shows.




    So science may not be quite as mainstream as sports but that's because sports are accessible to smart and dumb alike - and anyone can get an entry level knowledge of sports and become a blogger about it.   The bar is a little higher in science but it's not impossible.   After all, I am allowed to write here.  


    NOTES:

    (1) Example of a great series synopsis; the opening credits of The Six Million Dollar Man.  In less than two minutes you learned everything you needed to know about the show.

    Comments

    Andrea Kuszewski
    First of all, I love that clip from Big Bang Theory!  Second, I think you are exactly right about a few things.

    Budgets are being cut for science journalism in traditional media because the format of information delivery has changed. As you said, people can come to websites like this, or press release sites to get info instead of reading it in a newspaper. Traditional magazines are going away also. People know they can go to the web to get info, so they want the most relevant, easily accessible, short chunk of information they can get- preferably from the scientists themselves. Interest in science and science communication isn't going away, it is just changing formats. It will be really interesting to look back 20 years from now and see this whole debate from a different perspective.

    Also- I daresay science is becoming trendy. People want to know more, learn more, and participate more in science now than ever before, in my opinion. Look at the rise of Citizen Science.  But on the other hand, there is a section of the public that resists and fears science (like Michael Specter mentioned in his TED talk), and the vehemence of that group's protests and resistance is so strong, that it tends to overshadow the rest of the population's intentions and interests. The solution to remedying that problem (at least partially) is to step up and support good science, and point out and discredit bad science and pseudoscience. Educating the public even more is a step in the right direction.

    Yes, we are raising the bar higher, and forcing people to think a little more. But that is a good thing.

    Great article!
    logicman
    The bar is a little higher in science but it's not impossible.   After all, I am allowed to write here.
    The higher the bar, the easier it is to sneak under it.  Didn't I?  ;-)

    Great article!
    MarshallBarnes
    ROTL!!!!!!!!!!!
    Oh, Patrick. Soooo, that explains it!
    You mean I didn't have to use that pole-faulting pole after all? Sheesh! Now he tells me!

    logicman
    He flies through the air with the greatest of ease,
     but catches the bar with his big knobbly knees ...


    That one rates a 5 on the rofl-o-meter!
    rychardemanne
    I think words are very important - I'm going to sound like Chomsky here but bear with me! What do we call someone who likes science? ... erm... hmm... there isn't a word for it. A scientist is someone who does science, not someone who follows it, or supports it. Instead, we have geeks and techies and even boffins. There is thus a whole culture that can easily be seen on the internet that is generally pro-science and pro-technology but don't perceive of themselves as being so because there isn't a science-related word to describe them.

    Science has become a very broad church and although the acronym STEMM (Science Technology Engneering Mathematics&Medicine) only has currency within educational circles it does show the problem that promoting Science alone may be perceived as excluding the other TEMM. So when doing any market research about science I would make sure that questions explicitly include all branches of science and related analytic disciplines.

    One anecdote about the problem with words. Some years ago I was working in the public understanding of mathematics and was canvassing for support from foundations and government agencies. I recall one conversation as it highlighted a problem I was facing. This was with a seemingly intelligent and articulate woman at a foundation; she initially told me that they had no money to fund mathematics activities. She was, however, sympathetic to my work and we chatted a while to see if there were any possible areas of overlap. At one point, she suddenly tells me that they do have lots of funds for numeracy! The British government had been championing numeracy so much that people had forgotten that it was a branch of mathematics! I had to change my pitch to include both mathematics and numeracy as so many people never made the link.


    Hank
    Terrific points, though in the UK what do you call sports fans?   Is there a term?   I use 'yobs' for anyone from Wales, for example, and 'idiots' for fans of Manchester United, but I don't know of a broad term for sports fans other than sports fans.

    It may be that science, like sports or art, is regarded as a luxury item - in the UK election debate I mentioned above both candidates said cuts in science funding were happening - outside the basics in education, which is a perceptual issue.
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    rychardemanne
    Of course, 'science fan' is the obvious soubriquet, but why does it sound... odd... compared to, say, 'scifi fan'? It may just be its lack of currency.
    Gerhard Adam
    I think a "fan" denotes a non-participating admirer or supporter.  You wouldn't consider a religious person a "fan" of religion, or a supporter of certain political positions a political "fan", so the usage does sound odd.

    I personally think we're being too restrictive in our use of the word "scientist".  It is easy enough to establish whether someone is a professional or an amateur, but these carry different connotations as well.  Obviously a "scientist" is someone that practices science, but what does it mean to practice science?  Does one have to be actively pursuing research?  Does one have to have certain credentials?  Does one have to have funding? 

    I think these latter issues can help define what it takes to pursue science as a career, but it has little to do with what practicing science is about.  In effect, by being so particular about the term it conveys a sense of elitism that simply isn't true.  What we do for a living shouldn't be the only criteria for determining what terms can be used.  A "scientist" is as much a worldview as it is an occupation.  There are many people that call themselves "scientists" that aren't, while there are many that have other careers, but they are "scientists".

    I know that many times a professional can become annoyed when an apparent amateur challenges certain ideas or presents unusual ideas, and it is clear that they lack the background or knowledge to truly participate.  However, is this any different than the sports "fan" that thinks they know better than the players and coaches in how to produce a winning team?  It simply goes with the territory.

    In truth, any professional scientist should welcome such discussions because it can present an opportunity to clarify and educate those that share a similar viewpoint (i.e. the scientific one).  This is precisely where science has made some serious errors in presuming that "popularizing" science is something to be looked down on.

    In short, a scientist is NOT determined by what you do for a living, but it is a philosophy of how one views the world (credentials or not). 
    Jacob Aziza
    +1

    Could not possibly have said it better.

    Thank you
    Hank
    Indeed, a scientist in our modern sense didn't really exist even a hundred years ago.   Scientists were instead either inventors or they had benefactors or they won science prizes.

    We did terrific science then, though government-funded scientists today don't think much of corporations and science honesty so the notion of private benefactors and independent science would be lost on most.    It must be the non-social aspect of most scientists that they lament a continued funding process but prefer the anonymity versus having to convince investors one time;  a single investment from the private sector would last most labs for 15 years.
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    Becky Jungbauer
    That's actually a really interesting point, Rycharde. I hadn't thought of that. My friends and I refer to ourselves as science geeks or scientists, but we all are or once were practicing scientists. We should convene a think tank on SciBlog to come up with a name.
    Larry Arnold
    I would not call mathematics a science at all, it may be necessary to the practice of science, but it is necessary to the practice of economics, business and a whole lot else besides.

    Ontologically what gets called a science these days derives from natural philosophy, mathematics is a separate branch of philosophy altogether following a different set of rules from the physical and natural sciences.

    For that matter is paleontology more of a science than historiography, neither of them bearing any relationship to mechanics or chemistry? (Other than you might need to use a shovel to extract dinosaur bones, which consist of a chemical composition)

    The question is what does define a science? There is the popular notion of what science is, essentially a culturally mediated iconography and there is the philosophical definition going back to Kant.

    So is science defined by the objects it investigates, or the methodology?

    If science is reduced merely to rational enquiry, (which definition would include mathematics) then history, and literature too could be considered science, if they were governed by the appropriate set of principles.
    Hank
    Right, I don't think even mathematicians consider it a science.   In creating the site we had a hard time figuring out where to put it, so we put it under 'Culture'.  Political 'scientists' can get a PhD so maybe they think it is science.  

    A lot of that is cultural shift and society certainly makes terms colloquial ('evolution' 'science') while making others less so; 200 years ago no PhD in their right mind would let themselves be addressed as doctors because doctors were quacks.  Now an MD 'Dr.' is in the eyes of the public more prestigious and a PhD who calls himself 'Doctor' is going to be told he is not a real doctor.

    The kook who tried to get the LHC down called himself Dr. and everyone, MD and PhD alike, agreed he was wrong, even if technically he was right.  He had a law degree; Juris Doctorate.  

    Thanks Harvard, for muddying the cultural waters once again to make a buck.
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    I'm a science fan. I've always felt that I reached a certain intellectual maturity (dubious) when I realized mathematics transcended science. Science is about content. Mathematics can have impact solely in its beauty. You can dream mathematics. Mathematics can be 'about' itself or nothing or everything. I can't define it but I think I know it when I see it.

    Hank
    Downside to using more computers than anyone outside NASA, my nifty graphic of "The Scientist's Watch" (a Rolex, no less) as proof of mainstream science awesomeness was on one computer and I was on another when the article was completed.  It has been added in now.
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    I think the rise of hi-tech gadgets has a lot to do with making science more mainstream. Back when I was growing up (born in 1984), if you were too into computers and graphics, you were generally considered "uncool". But now, with the influx of modern technologies out on the market from companies like Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc, along with the rise of the internet and blogging (remember when starting up your own website needed to be done by "professionals"), people are become more tech-savvy, which I think necessarily opens minds to a scientific world.

    Aside from that, the ease at which one can now access all means of scientific information and the sheer volume of information available has brought science into the mainstream. This site as an example: When in the past would the "layman" (like me) be able to interact with experts in all these different fields at almost any hour of the day, any day of the week?

    I'm just a lowly "amateur" scientist, but I feel there are a lot more of me now than ever.

    Random comment to lighten the tone of the discussion....
    I feel slightly ashamed to admit this: upon watching the Six Million Dollar Man clip I juuuust now realize that that stupid fabric softener commercial is a spoof of it. (http://bit.ly/ansD6b)

    Ok....I open myself up for mockery.

    Hank
    You must be young.   Or lacking geek cred.   I have friends who can recite that show's whole opening by heart.  Underwater.

    Though you might have a social life, so it all evens out.
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    Haha, just young (I'm creating my site for grad students because I am one.)
    I was the type of kid who had a Captain Planet Air Quality Test Kit, and used it. So in other words, mad street cred.
    (Why do I immortalize such anecdotes on the interwebs?)