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    Debris Find - Likely Came From A Caravan
    By Patrick Lockerby | April 24th 2014 12:44 PM | 3 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Debris Find - Likely Came From A Caravan

    Yet another mystery object turns out to be unrelated to missing flight MH370.

    FAIRFAX Media has received photos of the debris found near Augusta which investigators have since confirmed is not linked to the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

    Mat Franklin and his son discovered the debris on Easter Monday four kilometres from Augusta.  

    Augusta-Margaret River Mail

    There is a lot of debris in the oceans and the chance of any of it turning out to be from MH370 is exceedingly slim.  The complexity of the ocean currents in the area where the plane was most likely lost, taken together with winds and tidal currents, reduces the chances of finding relevant evidence even in well-defined search areas.  The likelihood of any randomly found debris being from MH370 is, in my considered opinion, vanishingly small.

    My first reaction on seeing the photos was that this was aluminium cladding on wood from a caravan, trailer or similar.  Planes and other similar lightweight structures don't often incorporate wood framing because of its weight.  On the other hand, wood tends to be much cheaper than aluminium and so is quite frequently used for the framing of caravans, trailers and truck bodies.

    It may be of some significance that there are three caravan parks in the region where the debris was found.

    A quick Google search for images of caravan wreckage produced this link to PPruNe.  Thanks guys!  A special tip of the hat to ORAC for the video link.

    Comments

    G'day,
    looking at the pictures, it is not aluminium on a wood structure. It is aluminium on aluminium. What you seem to have mistaken for wood looks like spray on polyurethane foam, which in any case, is also not typical of aircraft structures.

    Cheers,
    Paul

    logicman
    It is aluminium on aluminium
    You are probably right.  Here is a picture which certainly does look like the construction which you describe.
    Bonny Bonobo alias Brat
    Yet another mystery object turns out to be unrelated to missing flight MH370.
    There is a lot of debris in the oceans and the chance of any of it turning out to be from MH370 is exceedingly slim.  The complexity of the ocean currents in the area where the plane was most likely lost, taken together with winds and tidal currents, reduces the chances of finding relevant evidence even in well-defined search areas.  The likelihood of any randomly found debris being from MH370 is, in my considered opinion, vanishingly small.
    Yes Patrick, especially when the Kuala Linggi Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Malacca drops it overboard after fishermen from Malaysian Port Dickson on the west coast of Malaysia handed it over to them according to this 12th March New Straits Times article  :-
    PORT DICKSON: A group of fishermen found a life raft bearing the word “Boarding” 10 nautical miles from Port Dickson town at 12pm yesterday.One of the fishermen, Azman Mohamad, 40, said they found the badly damaged raft floating and immediately notified the Kuala Linggi Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Malacca for assistance to lift the raft as it was very heavy."We managed to tie it to our boat as we feared it would sink due to the damages," he said.When the MMEA boat arrived, the fishermen then handed over the raft into their custody.However, a Kuala Linggi MMEA spokesman said the raft sunk into the sea while they were trying to bring the raft onboard. 



    Does anyone know what MH370's life rafts would look like? Anything like the one in this photo taken from the same New Straits Times article? It looks quite a lot like the Liferaft in this Youtube and they do mention that a different version has a 'boarding' ramp. Maybe all liferafts look very similar? The Boeing 777 safety cards on this website also show the Boeing 777 Liferafts as being grey. So I imagine that the distinctive orange background and words 'BOARDING' are probably the best identifier as to where this Liferaft originated from. 

    Just found this Liferaft training Youtube which is using a black and orange liferaft which has the word BOARDING written in black on an orange background, so unless Boeing use US Army Corps Liferafts or alternatively the US Army Corps of Engineers in Norfolk use Boeing liferafts I doubt if the one that the fishermen found and that the MMEA dropped and lost actually came from a Boeing 777.
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