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    Dark Energy, Dark Matter, Dark Force: Not Afraid Of The Dark
    By Sascha Vongehr | August 19th 2011 12:51 AM | 23 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Dr. Sascha Vongehr [风洒沙] studied phil/math/chem/phys in Germany, obtained a BSc in theoretical physics (electro-mag) & MSc (stringtheory)...

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    The public repulsion against dark matter and dark energy is really annoying. Rob Knop at scientopia compares it to 17th century catholic church mentality; Ethan picks it up and bangs the dark matter explains everything drum although dark matter does not fit very well to galaxy rotation curves – Modified Newtonian Dynamics (MOND) fits better:

    dark energy dark matter

    (From: Begeman, Broeils, &Sanders 1991; Sellwood&McGaugh 2005.)


    Let me try a different approach: The biggest problem with the acceptance of dark energy and dark matter is first of all the word “dark”, but we are stuck with that - indeed they both do not emit light and are thus dark.


    Second biggest problem is that they are confused! Dark matter and energy are presented as if they are brothers, as if presenting merely the start of a new line of cheap ad hoc fudge factors: Dark energy, dark matter, dark force, dark my ass, what comes tomorrow? It is important for the public acceptance of both, dark energy and dark matter, to point out that dark energy is not at all a fudge factor and not even anything new.


    dark energy dark matter


    Similar has been pointed out before, namely that dark energy is much less weird than usual pressure in Einstein’s general relativity:

    Wait a minute! The crazy point [about dark energy] is that something that pulls itself together expands, right? But that is not the contribution of dark energy. That part is just usual general relativity. It is nothing else but what has been accepted for almost a century by now: Pressure, although it pushes and wants to expand, contributes to gravity, which pulls and leads to contraction.


    Let me try a totally different way today:


    Take a usual pendulum, like a massive bob hanging from a string, and watch it swinging. Somebody writes down the equation that describes this pendulum: It has mass M and the length of the string L and also a term for the gravity of the earth for example. You can see how simple these formulas are at Wiki's Harmonic Oscillator. Now say that you see the swinging slowly damp down. No problem: There is a damping term D in the equation that describes that. Now somebody opens the window. The wind turbulences due to the window’s shape render the air flow around the pendulum somewhat periodic. You see the pendulum swinging more again – it accelerates. It accelerates just slightly and you yourself do not even feel the wind at all. Mysterious?



    Of course not. And the equation that describes this is very easily modified, too: Just add an applied force term F(t) to it. These terms in the equation of the harmonic oscillator, the damping term D and the driving term F(t), are completely natural. Especially, if you have another pendulum, say a vibrating string or a mass hanging from a spring, you of course apply the same or a very similar formula.



    If you enter your observations of the swinging into this formula, it will tell you whether there is a damping going on: namely when the damping D turns out to be non-zero. It will also tell you whether there is a driving force that feeds the oscillation: Driving term F(t) is non-zero.

    You would be a fool to look at the data of a pendulum and start to reject physics just because the observations tell you that the driving term F(t) is non-zero. All it says is: You might not yet know what exactly is driving the system, the wind or a magnet or whatever, but something is driving it.


    And precisely, exactly, nothing else but what I just described goes on with dark energy! Dark energy is plainly coming from the classical theory of relativity known for almost a century by now. You have the usual equation and then you look at a particular system to which the equation is applicable, now the universe, and put your observational data, here from the observed expansion of space, into the formula. There is a driving term Λ (lambda) in there. Lambda is not put in there by hand, but it should be in there, just like there should be a damping term D and a driving term F(t) in your equation if you want to describe an oscillator that you come across somewhere. It is nothing strange, weird, or new.


    Here is Einstein’s equation Guv + Λ guv = Tuv, with the pressure-energy density tensor T on the right hand side and gravity, the Guv, on the left side. Observation tells us that the lambda (Λ) you see there is non-zero. This is called dark energy or, if it turns out to be constant over time, also cosmological constant.


    Does dark energy exist? YES! Of course it exists, because it is right there in the formula. Does the driving term in the formula of the harmonic oscillator exist? YES! It is right there on the paper where I wrote it down, and it would in a sense even exist if it turned out to be zero - but guess what, it is bigger than zero.


    You may ask about what the fundamental nature of dark energy is: Is it quantum, vacuum energy for example? There are many unknowns, but it is not valid to say that dark energy does not exist or has not been observed. Of course it is observed. It is the observed data that leave the dark energy term non-zero! And that is dark energy – the lambda term does have the units of energy – just like the pressure-energy density tensor T right next to it (g has no units).


    Some do not "believe" in dark energy. It is the same as if I measure the damping term D of a pendulum to be non-zero and then they blabber about that "friction" they cannot possibly believe in because what on earth is "friction" supposed to be.


    And since you now know that it is childish to make a big fuss about dark energy, you know that everybody who throws dark energy and dark matter into one pot is already highly suspect of being a silly know-nothing. Dark matter is actually something that can be called a hypothesis, a good one by the way. The non-zero driving term F in the formula describing an oscillator is not a hypothesis, and it is a solid fact once it is observed to be non-zero.

    Comments

    MikeCrow
    What's your thought on MOND? Data does seem to line up better with MOND than CDM.

    I will note that MOND can have it's coefficients adjusted to whatever they'd like, making it match better. So that in itself, IMO doesn't necessarily make it more correct.
    Never is a long time.
    vongehr
    MOND adjustable terms are less arbitrary than MOND-enemies portray. What is generally misunderstood about MOND: The model does not claim that the universe is just working according to a modified, classical mechanics like Newton's. Such would be silly and MOND guys are not silly! It is not correct to say that MOND just explains rotation rates and no more. MOND is simply an indication of that there is an as yet neglected term, possibly due to emergent gravity (Eric Verlinde also now models rotation rates!). Once we figure out the actual nature of the MOND model acceleration term, this may very well be responsible for all the other stuff that dark matter and its adjustable parameters now more or less successfully model, even the bullet cluster.
    The Stand-Up Physicist
    I had the impression that the data about one galaxy passing through another was a bullet in the head for MOND. The center of the gravitational mass is in a different place than the center of the inertial, visible mass.

    When the good Swiss teacher Balmer came up with his equation for the spectral lines of hydrogen, it just worked. It took Bohr's work quantizing angular momentum to justify the form of the equation. Do you think we may be in a similar situation with MOND? Whatever proposal supersedes MOND to be at peace with the bullet cluster data would also have to have the same math properties as MOND to match the first graph in your blog (1/R dependence for the force law). This constraint is one reason I remain skeptical of dark matter.
    vongehr
    Yes, the bullet cluster and dwarf galaxies argue strongly for dark matter, but a mechanism from emergent gravity, say entropic gravity, could conceivably explain these. Dark energy is different. It does not matter whether your different formula for a pendulum reshuffles and renames terms or maybe discover that the pendulum is slowed down by dancing octonions. If a pendulum slows down, there is damping, period.
    Hank
    The public repulsion against dark matter and dark energy is really annoying. Rob Knop at scientopia compares it to 17th century catholic church mentality
    They can leave Scienceblogs but Scienceblogs cannot leave them - is there any sort of minimum religious reference count at science blogging sites? 

    Good deconstruction of the confusion surrounding dark energy and dark matter but not everyone is stupid; dark matter simply isn't that convincing to some skeptical people.  I'm okay with people who have rational skepticism, people who just accept the latest pop hypothesis blindly aren't 'better' at science.
    vongehr
    is there any sort of minimum religious reference count at science blogging sites?
    If such is there only to sound extra hateful, ..., however, I do support these comparisons. Sciency folk are so convinced not to be religious that they just can't see how very religious they are.
    not everyone is stupid; dark matter simply isn't that convincing to some skeptical people.
    That is why I put up the first picture. I am not 100% convinced of dark matter. Even the bullet cluster does not convince me that there is not maybe some entropic gravity scenario that leads to the observed time lag. The best evidence may be very small galaxy's rotation rates rather than early structure formation.
    "Not Afraid Of The Dark"

    "When you walk through the storm hold your head up high and don't be afraid of the dark..." :)

    So, the next article will be on the possible nature of dark energy?

    Wow, some strong statements about Dark Energy and Dark matter. So you believe Einstein's famed Cosmological Constant which he said was the biggest blunder of his career proves that Dark Energy exists. Okay I'll play along with your belief for awhile. If you can tell me what exactly is dark energy. Specifically and tell me how the repulsive force actually works. What is mechanics of this mysterious force? What particle or force field is it composed of? What actual scientific evidence coming from a lab has proven its actual existence? As I understand it the entire concept came about because of a desire to explain why galaxies are departing from each other at increasing rates at the most distant regions of our view-able Universe. Isn't that really the only evidence we have? So if we were to ever come up with another reason why the galaxies are accelerating would not your dark energy theory fly out the window?

    Rick Ryals
    So you believe Einstein's famed Cosmological Constant which he said was the biggest blunder of his career proves that Dark Energy exists.

    He never would have said that had he known about the real massive particle potential of the quantum vacuum.

    If you can tell me what exactly is dark energy.

    Dark energy is very simply rarefied ordinary mass energy that has negative pressure because it has rho<0.  It is "dark" because it is less dense than ordinary matter.

    The mechanics and mechanism are self-explanatory once you understand those two points.

    And I'll put money on that being correct:

    http://longbets.org/476/
    I am willing to take that bet in a New York minute. The conditions of the bet must now be made. You can not have an infinite amount of time to wait until it is proven. What is the time limit that you think that Dark Energy can be proven to exist in? While we are at it you want to bet on the discovery of the Higgs particle. I say it does not exist. What do you say?
    As for rho < 0 that implies something that exists out there in space with a density less than 0. Would that be space itself or some other material substance? Why have we not detected this material here locally? Now that I think about it, how can anything have a density less than 0? Don't you think that is an odd concept in of itself? Some object out there would have to have a density less than nothing. If you say that space can have a negative or positive density then would you not have to admit that space must in some way have to be a physical material object. Then would that not put us back toward an ether theory.

    Rick Ryals
    It would appear from the comments that this guy can't read, doesn't know anything about Einstein's universe, or even relativity.

    But you are welcome to goto the linked website and register where we can discuss the terms at the appropriate place... AFTER you read every linked article and follow-up, as well as these informative pages that clearly explain where I'm coming from and why EINSTEIN, (not I), thought that the vacuum had rho<0, since you certainly can't possibly have a copy of M,Tand W's Gravitation lying around:

    http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_constant.html

    http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s7-01/7-01.htm

    PS:  Had you bothered before babbling, then you would know all of the answers to your questions, like, why I don't think that a higgs will be found.
    vongehr
    It would appear from the comments that this guy can't read
    Now that would be a totally unexpected thing on the internet.
    Rick Ryals
    I was wrong, he can read, but just doesn't comprehend very well... 11 dimensions wha???

    Although he does rant and ramble quite well even if he can't find the reply button either... ;)
    Boy you just can't help yourself. Are you that insecure that you just can't be a polite person. How about answering the question I keep asking you. :) Is there any proof that dark energy really exists? Are you afraid to answer? The 11 dimensions is a reference to the bogus concept in string theory. Really, seriously, you could not make that simple connection. Perhaps you have trouble connecting the dots. :)

    Rick Ryals
    There is no "proof" that gravity curves space, but I don't doubt that it does because there is a very well tested theory that says it is so.  In fact, there is no "proof" of anything in science, only evidence in support of...  Now, show me anywhere that I have ever claimed that there are "11 dimensions not 4", that there are "wormholes and cosmic strings", as you seem to be convinced that I have... or we are done, sonny.

    Buh bye... ;)
    Well that is an improvement. We still need to work on your attitude. By the way I am probably older than you by many years. We are by no means done, we are just beginning. That is if you have the courage and fortitude to continue. You are into betting and big challenges lets see what you got. The first thing I need you to do is to speak more honestly and not try and obfuscate the facts. I am going to walk you through this process and hopefully at some point you can stop being a wiseguy and we can get to the truth of things.

    So in a very vague way you have admitted that there is no proof of Dark Energy. But then you go onto a philosopical sidebar saying that technically we can't proove anything in reality so what is the big deal. Okay lets play it your way with your words. "only evidence in support of ..." the " ..." being the "proof". I will ask the question again. Is there "any evidence in the support of the case for proving existance of dark energy? I am going to slowly get you to walk down a road that will demonstrate to everyone how poorly formed your idea and belief in dark energy really is. Keeping in mind now when I ask many of the questions I am going to ask you I already know what the answer is "I just want to hear your opinion and you a chance to defend your ideas" I want to know the details of your belief and understanding. Then when I get you to commit to something, we can expose what is most likely true and what is most likely false. Hows that Sonny boy :)

    Rick Ryals
    How's that?... well it's probably a lot more than Sasha is going to tolerate, so I expect him to show up and start deleting any minute now, but in the mean time, you are welcome to espouse your theory without my help.  You know where to go if you want to make a wager... old man, as I promised, we are done.

    Google search: Evidence for Dark Energy - 4,280,000 results (0.22 seconds)
    I am beginning to think you do not read or comprehend very well. I am not interested in espousing my theory I wanted you to explain your thoughs and beliefs concerning Dark Energy. I was going to question you and force you out into the open. But I knew when I challenged you, you would back down. So far the only thing you seem to excel in is name calling.
    Google Search: No evidence for Dark Energy - About 5,100,000 results (0.18 seconds)
    See it only took me .18 seconds to prove you wrong. See me laughing at you... Dip stick
    Discussion over...

    A theory (MOND) which reproduces actual structure in hard data, vs a smooth curve that hardly fits, should not be ignored out of hand. An example comes to mind, that is, trying to fit the theory of UV molecular absorption to an actual IR spectrum of the same molecule. While the theory of UV electronic absorption is correct, it will only produce a smooth curve through the structured IR spectrum. However, the theory of IR ro-vibronic absorption will fit the structure exactly. I realize many bright minds have tried to explain why MOND fits the data so well and have failed. Still, I belive MOND is telling us something important, which we are missing completely. While I do not believe in String Conjecture (it is hardly a 'theory' by any metric), perhaps, on large scales, the universe is only 2D (a brane), which is what MOND is suggesting. Perhaps the 3D we see is only the finite thickness of a larger 2D 'landscape.' Sorry, had to sneak that in there for fun. As for dark energy, as a hyper-meticulous, Virgonian experimentalist, I believe time will show the perceived acceleration, to be an artifact. Granted, the supernovae data set is impressive, but the amount of massaging that goes into the data reduction is suspect. Sort of like all of the, up to now, hints of Higgs. Final prediction, SUSY and Higgs bosons, do not exist.

    The Stand-Up Physicist
    You cannot walk around and tell people that you do not believe in dark energy without making yourself utterly ridiculous!
    Darn it, I hate looking ridiculous. I can see why you defend the dark energy term in the equations for gravity. It has also been my experience that if I decide to challenge the equations for gravity, I don't get dismissed - that requires too much effort. It is more like a reflex ignore. I do feel utterly ridiculous, me and my Lagrangian, field equations, testable predictions and all. So it goes. Time for me to shut up and work on my next blog.
    @Richard,

    It will be a pleasure to see you proven wrong when it happens and it will happen. I can read, you just can't think. I wonder if I will get an apology from you when you are proven wrong. Oh, I went to your long bet website and I read why you believe that the Higgs won't be found. All I have to say about your concept is the right idea for the wrong reason. You need to learn some manners by the way. The day people can't disagree without being scolded at is indeed a sad day. Once again to point out to the question you failed to answer. Where is the proof in the lab that dark energy exists? Now let me answer it for you, oh man of great arrogance, there is no evidence, there is no proof therefore all you really have is mathematical term in an equation with no basis in physical reality. You are just not bright enough to see that and that my friend that is why physics has been at a complete stand still since Einstein. Its loaded with people like you that have no intuitive abilities. Oh, by the way I knew the answers to the questions I asked. I just wanted to see what you would say. Once again as so many physicists do when asked the tough foundational questions they avoid answering them because they know they will look bad as they don't have a good answer for them. You were no exception to that rule. Your response was to launch an ugly attack. Sadly, no surprise there. Here is some more questions you can't answer. What is a magnetic field? Why is the speed of light the specific number that it is? What is an electron composed of? What is the source of the gravitational field? So now we all know you can't answer any of these questions either. The only thing you can do is provide a formula which on its own without a working mechanical model means nothing. Why can't you answer these questions, because deep down, you really don't know as much as you think you do. It just makes me sad to see such stubborn arrogance. What needs to happen in science today especially in physics is people need to ask more questions about what you guys are doing and saying. People need to closely examine and scrutinize what you people say. Much of what you say and what we see on television is pure speculation and you guys report it like it was fact. Until you have hard evidence everytime you say something like there are 11 dimensions not 4 and there are wormholes, dark energy, dark matter and cosmic strings and all this other non-sense you should clearly state that this is speculation not a fact that we know will be proven at some later time.

    James Ph. Kotsybar
    DARK ENERGY QUESTION  -- James Ph. Kotsybar 

    Could inflation have done more than we know, 
    shortly after the Big Bang’s first salvo, 
    and created a dense matter halo 
    beyond the horizon where we can go? 

    Beyond the horizon that we can see, 
    is there a remote possibility 
    of a most massive field of gravity 
    that pulls the strings of our reality? 

    Perhaps it’s just dense matter that’s the source, 
    accelerating expansion perforce, 
    and not some new and mysterious force, 
    or change of gravity’s attractive course, 
    as though we are bound by a black hole’s skin, 
    that stretches space to surface dimension.
    The most reasonable assessment of the 'dark forces' is that they were proposed as simple proxies to compensate for unexpected results in observational studies. Dark matter was just a rough guess for the unexpectedly high rotational velocity of stars and gasses as a function of their distance from the center of spiral galaxies. Dark energy is some stab at explaining why more distant type Ia supernovae were dimmer (farther away) than standard cosmological models (presuming temporal deceleration) predicted based on the SNe host galaxies' redshift - presumed to indicate that, for SNe that are 3-5 Glya, at least, the effects of expansion have been greater than expected based on nearer SNe.

    There is no physical justification for either some dark matter matter that operates as the butcher's thumb on his scale assessing galaxy rotation or some form of energy that began to accelerate the expansion of spacetime about 5 billion years ago.

    The galaxy rotation problem is most simply explained by the original misapplication of Keplerian rotational characteristics derived solely from observation of the Solar system to the rotation of spiral galaxies. For additional brief commentary and references to published peer reviewed research, please see: http://www.sciencewithoutfiction.com/uploads/JDwyer.PDF

    If the expansion of the universe has actually begun to accelerate, (there are still some undetermined potential issues regarding the consistency of type Ia supernova peak emission luminosity in a developing universe in which metalicity is continuously increasing - please see: http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/08/bright_supernova_one_of_the_ne.html...), the correct explanation might be based not on some imaginary new force but the changing relationships among existing forces.

    In my opinion, those who believe in the unidentified 'dark forces', having no physical evidence but only highly derivative analytical inferences, should reexamine their own belief systems and reinvest their energies in healthy scientific skepticism.

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