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    By Patrick Lockerby | February 11th 2010 04:16 PM | 13 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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    Dairy Farmer Makes BS Claim

    The Utah House has passed a resolution questioning the science behind global warming.

    Rep. Mike Noel, the Legislature's chief climate-change skeptic, declared Thursday that global warming is a conspiracy to control world population.

    The House Natural Resources Committee then approved a resolution that expresses the Utah Legislature's belief that "climate alarmists' carbon dioxide-related global warming hypothesis is unable to account for the current downturn in global temperatures."

    The resolution, sent to the House on a 10-1 vote, would urge the Environmental Protection Agency to drop plans to regulate the pollution blamed for climate change "until a full and independent investigation of the climate data conspiracy and global warming science can be substantiated."

    "We're at the breaking point," said Rep. Kerry Gibson, the resolution's sponsor, who warned that the supply of safe and affordable food is already threatened by over-regulation.
    http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_14337716
    "I believe in global warming," Gibson said. "I believe in global
    cooling, in (weather) cycles. We've had an ice age, extreme heat," but
    can humans, "in our everyday lives," change the environment around us?
    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700008370/Utah-Legislature-House-formally-questions-global-warming.html

    Kerry Gibson has a 600 cow, 800+ acre dairy farm.  He has a degree in dairy farming from Utah University.

    Kerry, Kerry!  Let me run this one by you.  Those green acres where your cows graze: were they always there?  Were the fences and roads always there?  Or, did humans alter the natural environment?

    I wonder, Kerry,  did your degree course not cover the basics of biology?  Cows thrive in green acres and die in desert sands or icy wastes.  Every living organism affects its environment; every living organism is affected by its environment.  We humans are no exception, unless it be in this: that we change our environment on the grand scale using ever bigger machines.


    Don't these politicians get it?  The global human population and their food supplies are under threat, not by taxation and regulation but by environmental backlash.  Global warming is triggering climate change.  Weather extremes will become more common and more extreme globally.  This will lead to food and freshwater shortages globally.

    Perhaps the farmers of Utah will begin to understand this whole global warming scenario when they have a drought like the ones in China And Tibet.

    Of course, it will be too late for them to open their eyes to the big picture when they have to put their thin, drought-stricken cows through a printing press in order to brand them.

    Comments

    CJE
    Politicians, no matter their persuasion, don't mix well with science. I'm not sure why.
    Gerhard Adam
    Usually because they're idiots.
    Instead of wanting to tax us and regulate us why don't people like you quit complaining and invent technology from your own hard earned money. There won't be a drought like you say here. What proof have you got anyway. What the hell do you eat anyway and where does that food come from. You people are the idiots. Tell a child you can't afford to feed it because the government took all your money to put into global warming programs and they won't let Bessie give you milk unless you pay them first! Ahhhhh the stupidity. You should pray for a little enlightenment to human causes or I guess you don't believe in God either.

    CJE
    In some cases, yes. But I think it has more to do with the fact that we require our elected officials to deal with more issues than they possibly can. The result, generally, is lousy policies in every area.   
    Gerhard Adam
    ...we require our elected officials to deal with more issues than they possibly can.
    I'm not so sure about that.  Many of the issues they're focused on exist because of their own agendas.  The respective political parties perpetual objective to ensure re-elections and to fight political battles creates the illusion that there's more activity than there actually is.

    In almost all cases, the politician is playing a PR game and not dealing with issues at all.  Instead of conducting arguments and debates in the media, the place to resolve these is on the floor of Congress.  However, I also realize that these people aren't actually interested in addressing issues nearly as much as they are in ensuring re-election. 

    To ensure re-election one must be flexible on positions so that whichever way the public winds blow, the politician can respond.  Therefore the last thing any politician wants to do is go on record on any particular issue. 
    Gerhard Adam
    Patrick

    It's funny but the Daily Show with Jon Stewart took a poke at this whole issue with global warming and I thought did a pretty good job.  In a nutshell, they had two "reporters" arguing that the world was cooling (Washington, D.C. where it was snowing) and the other arguing that it was warming (summer in Australia).  At this point a third jumped in and expressed his fear that because it was night time, the earth was actually getting darker ....

    Well, by the end the big hysterical concern was that the planet was getting darker ....
    logicman
    the big hysterical concern was that the planet was getting darker ....
    Yikes!  Global dimming! Must be all that soot, aka non-polluting particulate matter!

    "It's not a pollutant, it's a particulate matter. So we are talking about two different things and I am surprised that anyone would be at all surprised that I would be trying to find out about black carbon while I don't buy the idea that anthropogenic gases are causing global warming."
    James Inhofe
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/may/05/inhofe-black-carbon-bill
    Gerhard Adam
    Patrick

    They actually had some pretty funny things in that routine, like a cooling trendline that extended all the way back to August.  Jon Stewart made the comment that it wasn't a very long time, and the "reporter" commented that that was when the cooling trend started.  He was also trying to explain that the heating that was occurring in Australia was due to the fact that it was summer for them, while the "reporter" indicated that with the current rate of temperature change it would be 120 F by the weekend.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-33530-Providence-Environmental-News-Examiner~y2010m2d11-Video-Jon-Stewart-on-climate-change-snow
    logicman
    Gerhard: thanks for the link and comments.

    Unfortunately, I can't get the video in the U.K.  Sounds like that show was a great spoof.
    CJE
    I'm not so sure about that. Many of the issues they're focused on exist because of their own agendas. The respective political parties perpetual objective to ensure re-elections and to fight political battles creates the illusion that there's more activity than there actually is.

    In almost all cases, the politician is playing a PR game and not dealing with issues at all. Instead of conducting arguments and debates in the media, the place to resolve these is on the floor of Congress. However, I also realize that these people aren't actually interested in addressing issues nearly as much as they are in ensuring re-election.

    To ensure re-election one must be flexible on positions so that whichever way the public winds blow, the politician can respond. Therefore the last thing any politician wants to do is go on record on any particular issue.


    Vote hustling is just the nature of politics. But the fact remains that agendas are set by whoever puts the pressure on politicians (voters, lobbyists, etc.), and there are too many competing interests for joe congressman to have a good grasp on all of them. In my opinion, that's why we get people like Inhofe calling climate change a hoax and people like Henry Waxman babbling about icecaps holding down tundra and the North Pole evaporating - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=408_1243808281
    logicman
    Henry Waxman babbling about icecaps holding down tundra and the North Pole evaporating...
    Hilarious!  Thanks for the link, CJE.

    Hmmm.  Let's see if I understand this.  The ice holds down the tundra.  The tundra holds down the mantle.  The mantle holds down the molten core.   ...   Holy smoking ice-leads Batman!  If the ice melts, that's gonna be one big supervolcano!
    CJE
    Exactly!
    Rod Rose
    Gibson knows very well what he's doing. His 600 cows produce methane and he doesn't want anyone suggesting that, in the interests of saving the planet, he cork his cattle.